For Hoofhearted, a debate on unemployment and budgets

[exGOPer]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I love your chart. On it, it says "Obama's policies start to take effect". Pray tell, what mystical policies are these you speak of, sir knight?

And which new sockpuppet are you?

The stimulus

My own account, active on more quantitative boards though.

 

[exGOPer]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

You registered in May, just for election day?

Actually I posted before but none of my posts showed up so I gave up (moderation queue?), I tried again today and it seems to be working.

 

[Max E.]

Quote from exGOPer:

The stimulus

My own account, active on more quantitative boards though.

Your chart proves that the market was already turned around by the time simulus funds went out the door. There wasnt even a single dime that went out the doorprior to 2010.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from exGOPer:

Actually I posted before but none of my posts showed up so I gave up (moderation queue?), I tried again today and it seems to be working.

How very convenient for you!

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Your chart proves that the market was already turned around by the time simulus funds went out the door. There wasnt even a single dime that went out the doorprior to 2010.

Let's not forget that this stimulus was supposed to prevent unemployment from ever getting above 8%. Boy was THAT a bad call.

 

[denner]

Quote from Tsing Tao:


And which new sockpuppet are you?

Seriously, is this "Whack a Mole" or what?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from denner:

Seriously, is this "Whack a Mole" or what?

I don't know. It's pretty desperate, though. I've asked Magna and Tgregg to start checking some IPs on this forum. Hopefully, they'll get some matches and ban some of these clowns.

 

[denner]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

I don't know. It's pretty desperate, though. I've asked Magna and Tgregg to start checking some IPs on this forum. Hopefully, they'll get some matches and ban some of these clowns.

I get the feeling that sponsors have a protection racket.

 

[Hoofhearted]

Quote from exGOPer:

I registered in May, so how can this be a new account? Just active in the politics section (here and at Wilmott) just for the election day.

Don't take it personal, ex, they make that accusation to anyone who is new to the forum, and that disagrees with their views.

I ,like you, came in Aug to get some stocks advice but one of my threads got kicked over to here. I actually enjoyed the discussions, so I stuck around.

They'll likely call you Mr Bill, AK47, Ricter, brass?, the list goes on.

They likely all have alias accounts and so they assume everyone else does too. It's the best reason I can come up with.

Welcome to the basement

 

[Hoofhearted]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

We'll start with the unemployment one that AK posted. Here it is, for reference:

The first obvious slant in that stupid chart is when Obama took office. I think we can all agree that he took office on Jan 20th, 2009. But if you look at that chart, it is made to appear as if Obama took office sometime around January 2010. The arrow on the top header points to that, as does the arrow encapsulating "Obama takes office". The creators of the chart say "oh, that's just accidental. We have the arrow beginning on the right date in Jan 2009. But the way the chart was written, it makes it look like Obama came to office with a few declines, and then launched into job creation.

Horseshit.



Your turn, Hoof. Dazzle me.

Like I stated from the beginning in the last thread, I never had any desire to debate the chart, or numbers.

I simply called you out for saying they were fake, and then not providing any evidence that they were BS.

I commend you for finally putting something up, even if it's the same graph AK put up, and putting your own spin on it.

But I never saw this chart the way you think others do.

It looks to me like Obama took office in JAN 09, and every thing to the right of that date, indicates the graph bars correlate with the Obama's administration timeline.

Everything to the left of Jan 09, obviously belonged to the Bush admins.

It looks pretty simple to me. Obama inherited a huge mess from the Bush admins, and then albeit slowly, eventually things got turned around.

p.s. I never saw where the creators of the chart said anything about the arrow being accidental. Did you make that part up, or do you have any proof to substantiate such a claim?