For discussion: Do liberals injure blacks?

Quote from hapaboy:

Canyonman, a thrilling read! Reminds me of an old Jan Michael Vincent movie I saw when I was a kid, about a group of people who decide to stop the gang presence in their neighborhood...forget the title....


The movie was Defiance with Jan Michael Vincent and Theresa Saldana. Saw it about 25 years ago but for some reason this movie always sticks out in my mind.
 
It's funny but I knew what "region" you were from by your remark about athletes. I was just having a discussion on the telephone with an ET member and got to talking about how many pros from your area. From both races. I believe Sun-Time's columnist Rich Roeper is from South Holland as well.
Quote from canyonman00:

Ah, someone else who remembers their odd gear. I still have my old afro pick that I bought from them at the picnic.

As for the townships, here you go:

http://www.district205.net/thornwood/

I was part of the first class to do a complete four years at the school. I was part of the second freshman class at the school. The initial freshman class had an interrupted term. In their first year, there was race riot at the school and all the African American students were temporarily transferred to Thornridge.

At the time, South Holland was the home of an active branch of the KKK (south side chapter). In my freshman year, the police department used to escort the buses off campus and to the city limits for safety. :)
 
Quote from canyonman00:

Sadly enough, I am worried about that too. But it would, and will, probably have to come to that. We have to start to stand up and take the community back.

And we'll need to have as much mental and emotional support as we can get from outside of the commuity too. This one will be dirty, but I also feel it could be quick. With the legal commuity on the side of the public and not the bangers, we could really make progress. :)
I most certainly wish you luck, and hope your community activism is not hampered by those more sympathetic to the gangbangers' "rights."
 
Quote from reg:

The movie was Defiance with Jan Michael Vincent and Theresa Saldana. Saw it about 25 years ago but for some reason this movie always sticks out in my mind.
Ah, yes...Defiance!! Thanks!

It was kind of hokey, but Vincent certainly had an air of menace about him in the film. Probably the kind of attitude one would need in such a situation.
 
Yep, Roeper is from South Holland. There was a report done on the fact many years ago and they were amazed how many folks over-achieved in several disciplines who were from the area. We even have an astronaut!! Her mom was a member of our church for many years too.

Curtis Mayfield lived a few blocks over (ex-wife still does) as did (and still do) the Dells. Lionel Richie is a cousin. Isaac Hayes, Lou Rawls, Jerry Butler and Marvin Gaye frequented the community regularly. The Chi-Lites are still in the area (Eugene Record died a little while ago). We've had many folks go to the olympics too.

The number of one/two year pros is staggering. The numbers become larger if you look at the semi-pros and farm club teams. The numbers really balloon if you add in South Holland and Calumet City. And it's been constant for over thirty years.

Of late Cliff Floyd of the Mets and Dwayne Wade are biggest locals on the play. :)
Quote from Pabst:

It's funny but I knew what "region" you were from by your remark about athletes. I was just having a discussion on the telephone with an ET member and got to talking about how many pros from your area. From both races. I believe Sun-Time's columnist Rich Roeper is from South Holland as well.
 
Quote from Aapex:

If what your referring to is a racial preference you are wrong.
How do you explain inter-racial marriage?

The "Europeans" kicked the Indians off their land, raped their women, enslaved africans, raped their women --- and now you hint otherwise?

give me a break.

People on average prefer their own kind. Obviously some people are open enough to other races that they intermarry.

I don't see what the rest of your post has to do with anything I said.
 
Quote from Ricter:
Is it really the crime of the century to admit you prefer the company of Europeans over Africans, Indians or East Asians? Why? It is self-evident that blacks prefer blacks, Chinese prefer Chinese, Mexicans Mexicans etc. Why must Europeans be the only people forced to pretend otherwise?

Do you actually expect to do any effective thinking with those labels? I feel like if I opened up your toolbox I'd find one of those goofy little sets one finds at a dollar store.

Lol. You just won't give up on the 'one human race' angle, will you?

Look, these people, these 'asians' and 'blacks' I refer to, self-identify as asians, blacks etc. Your problem is with them, not with me.

My point is simply that having thus self-identified, they prefer the company of people who share the same self-identification.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Theoretically more to the point is the fact that majority groups, I mean that in a socioeconomic sense, in highly stratified societies, are "wary and apprehensive" around socioeconomic minorities. It's what Ehrenreich calls "fear of falling".

And with excellent reason, too.

To suggest they shouldn't is to simply regurgitate the tired old Marxist moonshine about classless societies that, sadly, continues to feed modern 'sociology'.
 
This one's for Ricter and other such race-is-a-myth-ers.

Ernst Mayer is a biologist who the site in the hyperlink refers to as "perhaps the greatest evolutionary scientist of the twentieth century".

What does this man have to say on the existence of human races?

"There is a widespread feeling that the word race indicates something undesirable and that it should be left out of all discussions. This leads to such statements as there are no human races.

Those who subscribe to this opinion are obviously ignorant of modern biology. Races are not something specifically human; races occur in a large percentage of species of animals . . . the geographic races of the human races established before the voyages of European discovery and subsequent rise of a global economy - agree in most characteristics with the geographic races of animals. Recognizing races is only recognizing a biological fact."
 
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