food riots by 2012?

Quote from jprad:

Not quite. The Bill of Rights came after the Constitution.

The Constitution was completed in 1787, ratified in 1788 and became our operational government in 1789.

The Bill of Rights, the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution, were not added until 1791.

That's what I said, dipshit.

Read much?


Quote from jprad:

Anti-Federalists -- the Articles of Confederation, which was the country's first constitution.

Federalists -- the federal republic as defined in the second, and current, Constitution.

You're becoming more irrelevant by the minute.
 
Quote from Mecro:

Try reading your own posts. It should make you understand why forced sterilizations might be a good idea.

True. If your parents had done so, this board would be much brighter
 
There were references to China earlier in the thread... those jokers have a long way to go to be the world power they are played up to be.... they have raw sewage in 80% of their waterways for openers.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Why not?
An awful lot of other nations have been stupid enough.

they've gone through so much trouble to keep their currency low, why the heck would they reverse until their internal economy gets going? they seen what happened to japan in 85...

the pressure on the USD will come from the other areas anyways
 
Quote from achilles28:

You can read???

That's hard to believe! :D

When you post, I sometimes wish I forgot how to read. You say less with your words than just about anyone except stock_trad3r. The sad thing is, you don't realize it.
 
Why would anyone choose to live in an area where food shortages, riots, criminal class rule, etc. could affect their enjoyment of life? If you sincerely believe such a thing is coming, then take prudent action, like getting the hell out of the city?
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

There were references to China earlier in the thread... those jokers have a long way to go to be the world power they are played up to be.... they have raw sewage in 80% of their waterways for openers.


True, except they have 1bn 300 million people..so their perception of improvement is not the same.

Given they don't have the same perception, they won't stop from pushing US on the edge if it can insure their internal population is looking away from their problems.

Manipulating a population for it, to fight the wrong ennemy is pretty common.

But that should be considered like 20% chance of happening.

More worrying is something we cant control, permanent flooding in bangladesh because of rising sea water, super-virus in Nigeria, Iran mullah feel stuck with doing nuclear bomb to fulfill the prophecy..

Or simply, uranium shortage, food inflation in the summer, hyper-inflation because politician see that growth wont comeback..and they buy time by flooding the market with money with poor values.
 
Quote from achilles28:

That's what I said, dipshit.

No, you said that the anti-federalists opposed ratification of the first draft of the Constitution because of the Bill of Rights.

The reality is that they opposed ratification of the final version of the Constitution because they were opposed to what it proposed; a stronger central government.

They were also opposed to it's definition of the federal judicial system. In the end, the subsequent Bill of Rights was a compromise that was reached in order to get the Constitution ratified.

You also said that it was obvious to anyone that the Constitution was designed to thwart a Tyranny of the Minority, and that is also incorrect.

As I previously mentioned, the Constitution was actually the country's second constitution. It's why they wrote in it "in order to effect a more perfect union."

They recognized that the first constitution, the Articles of Confederation, was not going to keep the country glued together because it had already started to fracture only 10 years into its existence.

Also, it was the anti-federalists who opposed a tyranny of the elite (which your incorrectly applied as something the federalists feared).

In reality, what the federalists feared was a tyranny of the majority, which is why we have a representative democracy at the federal level.

However, they let the states have the decision to implement a direct democracy within their respective constitutions.
 
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