Flurry of pardons message to rats not to flip

[gwb-trading]

If only there were not a striking difference in the conviction rate between GOP and Dem Executive branchers that everyone is dirty argument would hold some water(gate).

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Amusing crap. The entire list is nonsense. Let's take a look at the Whitewater convictions while Clinton was in office as President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy#Convictions

Fifteen other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Jim Guy Tucker, who was removed from office.[44]

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

 

[Slartibartfast]

As I can see the message is by ignored for being too slow witted GWB, I had a look in another browser.

Are they executive branch? No.

Care to count the dodgy people connected via business to other presidents? (e.g. GWB..). You might even catch out Carter there.

 

[jem]

people could not possibly be arguing that the Clintons were not crooked because the swamp has not prosecuted them?

The establishment dems and republicans all have their fair share of crooks.
But, the fact that the bankers (with one irrelevant exception) were not prosecuted should be a very clear symbol that prosecutions are not doled out with an even hand.

Lets not forget Obama weaponized the IRS against conservatives and pro Isreal groups.
That the DOJ went after Dinesh DSouza for almost nothing.
That the FBI and IRS targeted Phil Mickelson after he said he paid 61 percent in taxes.

Even now... republicans are having trouble getting the swamp to focus on democrat investigations... the swamp is establishment and mostly democrat.

By the way, for the dense among you this is not a pro trump message. I am not claiming the idea that this could be a message would not escape Trump and his staff.

 

[exGOPer]

Big deal. Federal pardons have been controversial since the get go.

Carter granted amnesty to Vietnam draft dodgers his second day in office. How fair was that to the thousands and thousands of kids that didn't want to go fight that fucked up war either but did. I wonder what the 50K plus families that lost their loved ones over there for no reason thought about that.

Your hero Clinton pardoned 140 people (Pardongate) his last day in office and that list read like a who's who of fucking crooks. Including his own brother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy

The list of controversial pardons is exhaustive and it starts with George Washington.
So despite the latest round of 24 hour sensationalism as spun by MSNBC about the evil Donald Trump taking a well deserved jab at Comey and company.... I think a little stroll down memory lane for the last 250 years is in order here before one starts casting stones.

Clinton and Carter were not under investigation by their own DOJ and were not issuing pardons signaling that co- conspirators need not testify against them. Thankfully, Trump cannot pardon his way out of state charges for himself and people like Manafort and Flynn.

 

[exGOPer]

people could not possibly be arguing that the Clintons were not crooked because the swamp has not prosecuted them?

The establishment dems and republicans all have their fair share of crooks.
But, the fact that the bankers (with one irrelevant exception) were not prosecuted should be a very clear symbol that prosecutions are not doled out with an even hand.

Lets not forget Obama weaponized the IRS against conservatives and pro Isreal groups.
That the DOJ went after Dinesh DSouza for almost nothing.
That the FBI and IRS targeted Phil Mickelson after he said he paid 61 percent in taxes.

Even now... republicans are having trouble getting the swamp to focus on democrat investigations... the swamp is establishment and mostly democrat.

By the way, for the dense among you this is not a pro trump message. I am not claiming the idea that this could be a message would not escape Trump and his staff.

You are the guy who promoted the fake Seth Rich crap

You are the guy who promoted the fake news about Uranium One witness.

How do you know Clintons are crooked when you are wrong and lie all the time?

DSouza ADMITTED his crime! That's nothing?

 

[vanzandt]

So funny. That is why I keep coming back.

Everyone is dirty when that argument is useful, how dare they XYZ in the next post. Seems to follow Donny's lifetime mantra of always get even and demoralise whenever possible. His last day in office will be highly monitised. Probably be a good idea to change the rules so a President who is leaving due to criminal acts can't wave the wand.

If only there were not a striking difference in the conviction rate between GOP and Dem Executive branchers that everyone is dirty argument would hold some water(gate).

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Maybe the reason for the lack of indictments/convictions is because of which side controls the deep state. Ever think of that?

 

[jem]

you are such foreign troll liar.

I corrected your misrepresentations numerous times including your misrepresentation about about whether Fox claimed to have federal law enforcement sources on the seth rich case. They did make that claim and I proved it to you.

More like the Uranium one millions that went to the clinton foundation as her crime team as they got the CIFIS guy to do her a favor in exchange for a seat on one of Podesta's boards. And there was a witness which we discussed.

You are the guy who promoted the fake Seth Rich crap

You are the guy who promoted the fake news about Uranium One witness.

How do you know Clintons are crooked when you are wrong and lie all the time?

DSouza ADMITTED his crime! That's nothing?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Maybe the reason for the lack of indictments/convictions is because of which side controls the deep state. Ever think of that?

OMG the 'deep state' You are too funny. Maybe the deep state work with the people who (apparently motovated to make money from Nasa's budget) guard the ice wall of the flat Earth with 10,000 ships and their memory erasing devices.

Or.. because the GOP guys carry out a lot more criminal activity. I'll go with that one.

 

[vanzandt]

OMG the 'deep state' You are too funny. Maybe the deep state work with the people who (apparently motovated to make money from Nasa's budget) guard the ice wall of the flat Earth with 10,000 ships and their memory erasing devices.

Or.. because the GOP guys carry out a lot more criminal activity. I'll go with that one.

I'm no conspiracy theorist.... using the term "deep state" seems to be the current vernacular to describe the reality of what is... call it what you will... but it would be extremely naive and foolish to deny that what goes on in DC (that we know about) is the teeny tiny tip of a huge iceberg. Money and power brother. Generational networks of connections and secret handshakes that go back 70 years. We are but stupid stupid stupid sheep. I am not afraid to admit that. Nor should you be. We're both smarter than that.

 

[gwb-trading]

As I can see the message is by ignored for being too slow witted GWB, I had a look in another browser.

Are they executive branch? No.

Care to count the dodgy people connected via business to other presidents? (e.g. GWB..). You might even catch out Carter there.

How many people associated with Trump have been indicted based on activities they engaged in while employed by the executive branch?

Oh the answer is zero. Good to know.

Now stop pushing your narrative of criminality in the Trump administration. No facts support it.