Flurry of pardons message to rats not to flip
- Thread starter Cuddles
- Start date
https://qz.com/1293948/dsouza-blagojevich-martha-stewart-what-trumps-pardons-have-in-common/
What do those three people have in common? They were all prosecuted by district attorneys who are now Trump antagonists in the ongoing probe of whether the president colluded with Russia and obstructed justice.
What do those three people have in common? They were all prosecuted by district attorneys who are now Trump antagonists in the ongoing probe of whether the president colluded with Russia and obstructed justice.
It's funny to see Cons rallying around for Blagojevich and Martha Stewart of all people.
Donald Trump’s pardoning spree is not just a worrying departure from presidential norms because he appears to be rewarding allies. He is also taking a swing at those who helped convict them https://econ.st/2Ha5q52
Big deal. Federal pardons have been controversial since the get go.
Carter granted amnesty to Vietnam draft dodgers his second day in office. How fair was that to the thousands and thousands of kids that didn't want to go fight that fucked up war either but did. I wonder what the 50K plus families that lost their loved ones over there for no reason thought about that.
Your hero Clinton pardoned 140 people (Pardongate) his last day in office and that list read like a who's who of fucking crooks. Including his own brother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy
The list of controversial pardons is exhaustive and it starts with George Washington.
So despite the latest round of 24 hour sensationalism as spun by MSNBC about the evil Donald Trump taking a well deserved jab at Comey and company.... I think a little stroll down memory lane for the last 250 years is in order here before one starts casting stones.
I heard that Martha Stewart had flipped on Trump and was going to take him down so Trump wanted to silence her. Yeh, that's it. Martha Stewart was a Russian agent and was going to testify against Trump.
Also, Trump just pardoned the boxer there, Jack Johnson, who has long been dead since 1946 but his life was besmirched by a federal witch hunt. I am pretty sure that he was getting ready to flip so that is why Trump pardoned him. Smart move on his part.
Trump is sending a message alright. He is sending a message to the public to remind them/us that the feds have a long history of overzealous political witch hunt prosecutions. So while Mueller and Comey are conspiring to accuse Trump of abuse of power, he is reminding the public that the FBI needs to reigned in from its own abuse of power.
Last edited:
So funny. That is why I keep coming back.Everyone is dirty when that argument is useful, how dare they XYZ in the next post. Seems to follow Donny's lifetime mantra of always get even and demoralise whenever possible. His last day in office will be highly monitised. Probably be a good idea to change the rules so a President who is leaving due to criminal acts can't wave the wand.
If only there were not a striking difference in the conviction rate between GOP and Dem Executive branchers that everyone is dirty argument would hold some water(gate).
Last edited:
I was hoping you came back to learn reality and history.
But you have already demonstrated your complete ignorance on how headlines at major media sites work while slinging insults at others who see different stories & headlines than you. You fail to recognize that headlines are different in desktop vs. mobile formats -- while not recognizing different headlines are provided to different geo-zones (for example Europe and the U.S.) when looking at sites like BBC.
I was hoping you would be capable of overcoming your self-imposed ignorance but you have demonstrated your inability to take steps to educate yourself.
The point about Carter's pardons is an interesting double edged sword. The right makes the argument that Trump is simply enacting his campaign promises as voted for. So he is doing what the majority of people wanted in the country (Electoral college stuff aside).
"Carter pardons draft dodgers Jan. 21, 1977. On this day in 1977, President Jimmy Carter, in his first day in office, fulfilled a campaign promise by granting unconditional pardons to hundreds of thousands of men who had evaded the draft during the Vietnam War by fleeing the country or by failing to register."
Not to deserters or violent offenders etc. It was controversial, vetern groups had fair objections. As rightfully had spurious medical conditions fabricated by wealthy family doctors been investigated cadet 'bone spurs' would have been pardoned then also.
I wonder what the vetern's groups had to say at the time about such 1-Y medical excuses by the wealthy. Worth looking up.
Last edited: