It's because they relaxed the social distancing measures and re-opened the economy!! With pubs restaurants where people cluster together with no masks, no social distancing, yeah of course there is an increase in cases. The trend is very clear. As soon as there is a holiday where gatherings, even small gatherings are allowed, the no. of cases goes up.
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It's because they relaxed the social distancing measures and re-opened the economy!! With pubs restaurants where people cluster together with no masks, no social distancing, yeah of course there is an increase in cases. The trend is very clear. As soon as there is a holiday where gatherings, even small gatherings are allowed, the no. of cases goes up.
Slowing its spread IS defeating it. That's the whole idea. Instead of having everybody getting the disease, you reduce to only a small number of people getting infected. That's defeating it, don't you think? And don't use Sweden's example. If you look at Sweden's case, its per capita infection rate is lot higher than that of other countries. You can't compare a country that only has 30% of the population of another country to that of the other country and say "oh wow they don't do anything and they don't get sick". That does not make sense.
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Then you should teach your children Korean. LOL But be prepared when you go to those countries to face lot more "draconian" lockdown measures. These countries have extremely strict quarantine policies against anybody coming from outside and they are prepared to dish out harsh penalties to anybody who chooses to disobey. So if your children go to South Korea, chances are they won't be living with their aunt, they will be most likely carted off to designated quarantine facilities with heavy monitoring and be forbidden to have any contact with the outside world for at least a designated period of time meanwhile have to report to a mandatory government contact-tracing app on a daily basis.
There is a reason why the pandemic is under control in those countries. It's because people there are prepared and willing to do what's necessary to defeat the thing.
Yeah, although I was joking to my teenagers...they wouldn't last one week living in South Korea. It's just too strict there and the punishments (consequences) will be overbearing for them.
The entry period into South Korea is long gone for anyone that's not being expatriated back. Yeah, you're absolutely correct...Covid-19 is under strict management their with a culture that laughs at the world about face mask wearing considering face mask wear is a normal part of their culture long before the Pandemic.
Their contact tracing is excellent and can quickly isolate a problem area while everyone goes about their life without any lockdowns...just temporary restrictions that's usually lifted within a few weeks.
They jump on any problems very fast and their treatment of those hospitalized has been the best in the world so far...allowing them to keep the deaths very low. Makes sense considering they're rated in the top healthcare systems in the world and at the top in dealing with infectious diseases.
They're not blind...they see the toxic politics in other countries that impact those countries ability to deal with Covid-19.
If I was there now...the face mask wearing outside would seem normal as it was back in the 90's. Yet, the difference will be the face mask wearing "inside"...that would be not normal because indoor face mask wearing in public places wasn't done in the 90s.
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Nope, increase is cases is ............
1. They stopped Shielding, ie the vunerable about 2months ago which is about 25% of the population so it's just getting around them currently, same chart spike expected as wave #1 but to about 10%-15% area at the peak.
2. There doing mass testing, then anyone who dies from the mass testing within 28days is automatically classed as Covid Death.
3. There are in increase in deaths from Flu in the same group of people, there merely Flu deaths that tested positive for Covid within 28days.
Sweden, less deaths currently, because they shielded that at risk and let it burn itself out in the not at risk group and didn't drop the shielding until the risk of infection was pretty near zero. UK we let them out with virus still around to be sacrificed for the great fake 2nd wave.
I'm comparing Sweden with a Percentage 0.06% of population have died, 0.07% for the UK, 0.18% for NYC ?? crap health care system.
Norway, have actually given up fighting the virus and gone Herd to match Sweden upon seeing, it's not bad enough to do the economic damage, ofcourse WHO don't want this, because then they'll have to admit they over reacted did shit loads of damage for nothing and then they drop out of the spot light.
10-14days before UK's 2nd mini wave peaks.
Just look at NYC, no shielding, first place to get it in the USA.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
No 2nd Wave, it's got Herd, okay deaths there are huge for the population size, but crappy US health care is to blame there.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
No 2nd Wave, it's got Herd, okay deaths there are huge for the population size, but crappy US health care is to blame there.
You realize that herd means getting 70% of the population getting sick and hopefully recover right? That's the % of the population who has to get sick and hopefully recover in order for the whole population to get immunity without a vaccine. And it's basically a roll of dice if you recover or not after getting infected. Plenty of people who are young with no underlying health condition non-smoking non-drinking have died. You want to play Russian Roulette with your life and your families' life? Go right ahead but stay the hell away from me and I will be wearing my mask!
The 2nd wave is already here in NYC. Schools in several districts in NYC have already closed down. I dunno where you get your news.
Yeah really shows in the death rates increase, oh there isn't 1.
It's only a "fake" 2nd wave to you now because there is still lockdown measures in place and with mask-wearing. You get rid of all the lockdown measures and you get rid of all the mask-wearing, you get a full-blown 2nd wave just like the first wave. This is what you don't understand.