Florida high school under lockdown after reports of shooter, victims, police say

[UsualName]

I see. So the country that all the shit-hole countries look to as the beacon of freedom and are willing to risk life to get here just coincidently has the highest civilian ownership.

WHY OH WHY DID THE FRAMERS NEVER THINK OF THAT!!!!

Your AR 15 isn’t useful against the government. We take out entire countries, what do you think an AR 15 is going to do?

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

. Let’s just do something about the availability of the guns.

Well, I am hardly shocked that the binary mind searches for just ONE solution to how to increase security at schools. Don't want you to have a neural overload. So let's just do nothing until the 2nd Amendment is repealed. Nice.

Meanwhile, thousands of non-binary thinkers are thinking about what needs to be done or could be done at their school today. Maybe the school in the next state over or in Israel has controlled access point with security screening and armed undercover personnel on site. Maybe we could at least talk about that at the next meeting of the Comprehensive School Security Meeting. Nahhh. that would require thinking on your part. Let's just wait for the ONE solution.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Your AR 15 isn’t useful against the government. We take out entire countries, what do you think an AR 15 is going to do?

Often it is a handful of people in capital of a country who control the oppression and the use of massive tactics to suppress the people and through the resistance and removal of key people the control of the heavy duty weaponry also changes.

I cant completely review with you how history has worked. You have to educate yourself a little.



Do you have any information or update today as to whether the FBI actually subpoenaed information from YOUTUBE or if they did or did not get information from them voluntarily?

 

[gwb-trading]

Your AR 15 isn’t useful against the government. We take out entire countries, what do you think an AR 15 is going to do?

Defend your home from being burned by BLM thugs organized by politicians opposed to the way you think.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Your AR 15 isn’t useful against the government. We take out entire countries, what do you think an AR 15 is going to do?

I'm passing through Charlotte NC.

Even the airport looks like an gun.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I'm passing through Charlotte NC.

Even the airport looks like an gun.

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Okay, be sure to post and let us know what you have for lunch. Because that's important.

 

[Poindexter]

Edit:Just to add, I'm fine with the 2nd, I myself am a gun owner though mine is locked up safely in California (and I was military trained). I do object to ARs specifically as they are too lethal by far and abused as consumer items which the are not. The 2nd never foresaw this kind of firearm. As I said, they should be pulled from sale, a voluntary buy-back and all advertising for them banned. Alternatively only allow over ~25s to buy. It won't reduce all but it will stop some, the Florida shooter is 19.

Congress officially created the U.S. military on September 29, 1789.

You are correct that there was a fear that the federal government would disarm the state militias however that was short lived, certainly settled after the civil war. I poorly worded though I was aware of much of the details.

The national guard having finally taken over that role in the early 20th century for practical purposes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903

Dick act, good name.

As the majority of states gave up their militias in preference to the guard and army, that part of the 2nd became redundant.

Yes California and Connecticut have additional active & state recognised "well regulated" militias and the 2nd applies to them, not to the other 48 states.

Eventually a law becomes a relic if not updated and is ideally written out.

Wayne LaPierre is a psychopath, talented maybe, however I am not a fool to allow often repeated NRA bumper-stickers affect my judgement. Much of the neo-religeous gun nut fervor was his creation.

No Mr. Slartibartfast, you claimed the Second Amendment was rendered obsolete by the creation of the U.S. Army when you in fact had both the concept and the chronology backwards. The U.S. Army was founded in 1775 to protect citizens from foreign enemies, while the Second Amendment was adopted in 1791 to protect citizens from potential tyranny of the federal government, to include the U.S. Army.

The U.S. Army was in fact founded on June 14, 1775 and had eleven branches by late 1776. What you refer to was a mere formality that isn't even significant enough to be noted by the U.S. Army Center of Military History in their chronology of the Army's beginnings. https://history.army.mil/html/faq/branches.html

As for your point that the "2nd never foresaw this kind of firearm," the founders didn't forsee radio, television, or the internet either but the First Amendment still applies. Just as the Second Amendment applies today to contemporary weapon technology. It's not a "relic" nor is it a "law" and James Madison's overarching concept in Federalist 46 is as valid and applicable now as it was when he wrote it. In trading terms it was a put on tyranny, and it remains a put on tyranny. The "relic" argument is a lazy strawman. The simple fact that The Art of War by Sun Tzu (which was written 2500 years ago) is still widely studied is proof that some concepts are timeless.

 

[Slartibartfast]

No Mr. Slartibartfast, you claimed the Second Amendment was rendered obsolete by the creation of the U.S. Army when you in fact had both the concept and the chronology backwards. The U.S. Army was founded in 1775 to protect citizens from foreign enemies, while the Second Amendment was adopted in 1791 to protect citizens from potential tyranny of the federal government, to include the U.S. Army.

The U.S. Army was in fact founded on June 14, 1775 and had eleven branches by late 1776. What you refer to was a mere formality that isn't even significant enough to be noted by the U.S. Army Center of Military History in their chronology of the Army's beginnings. https://history.army.mil/html/faq/branches.html

As for your point that the "2nd never foresaw this kind of firearm," the founders didn't forsee radio, television, or the internet either but the First Amendment still applies. Just as the Second Amendment applies today to contemporary weapon technology. It's not a "relic" nor is it a "law" and James Madison's overarching concept in Federalist 46 is as valid and applicable now as it was when he wrote it. In trading terms it was a put on tyranny, and it remains a put on tyranny. The "relic" argument is a lazy strawman. The simple fact that The Art of War by Sun Tzu (which was written 2500 years ago) is still widely studied is proof that some concepts are timeless.

I'm not American but you should understand the difference between founded and officially integrated into the new state.

You interpretation is very typical of a partial autistic. And wrong.

 

[gwb-trading]

I'm not American but you should understand the difference between founded and officially integrated into the new state.

You interpretation is very typical of a partial autistic. And wrong.

So you are denying that the U.S. Army was started on June 14, 1775 -- as regularly stated by the U.S. Army.

Enjoy your re-writing of history.

 

[Tsing Tao]

If true, it absolutely should be called domestic terrorism. Not sure some self-described 4chan poster can mean that should be taken as gospel, but if the Fed's confirm it, then hell yeah.

I do note how fast this information supposedly came to light in the media. If the shooter's name were Mustafa Mohammed Aziz, I'm sure it would get little to no air time.

And, as expected, the 4chan domestic terrorism angle was a bogus troll on the media (and Spike).