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Fitness causing insomnia
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1. So deadlifts and bench presses with 50% of your weight? Maybe you should stick with the pink dumbbells advice.
2. Don't have carbs but if you do....eat them before bed when they are 100% most likely to be turned into fat.
I love the "experts" on this site...
Actually it’s been studied that if you lift more than 50% of your weight that it’s very stressful for your heart .. so you would recommend for someone over 50 to lift more than that? This is why many pro lifters go on to have heart surgery etc, and not just because of steroids. So perhaps why don’t you try some research and experiment before you knock it. The marines also train this way because it’s proven science ... high reps and modest weight because it creates more useful and durable muscle mass besides “show”. So the advice is instead of doing 1-rep max or 10rep, trying doing 50% with 20-50 etc because it is more gentle on your heart, instead of raising your aneorobic metabolism sky high and keeping you awake at night.
It’s well known that it’s not really the type of food you eat that determines fat level, but total quantity of calories in general. Different types of food do affect you ability to feel satiated however. So I’m not sure how you read eating “a little bit” will change things dramatically. Carbs generally have a sleepy effect and so consuming it before bedtime is sometimes helpful.
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Wow....not even going to bother with so much to counter. Who cares what Marines do or if some professional lifters for anecdotal evidence. If you are over 50 it does not mean you are dead. If you are out of shape and weak then dont do heavy lifts. But dont generalize with wrong information that you should only lift 50 percent max. Those people go to Planet Fitness and sit on treadmills and pink dumbbells. Good for them. Dont generalize with silly statements though.
Also there is so much research into quality of calories it is surprising you ignored all of it. 2000 calories of sugar is not the same as 2000 calories of carbs/fat/protein. So stop with the bull that type does not matter only total calories. Someone eating 1800 calories of carbs all day will be diabetic with high triglycerides and other issues in most cases.
So much science has demonstrated not eating close to bed time to maintain or lose weight that for you to say otherwise means you dont know what you are talking about.
Don't talk to me about research and then state things that go counter to most common research.
There are 5 to 7 of us here who research this info almost as a 2d hobby so dont come here unless you have put in the hours.
Also there is so much research into quality of calories it is surprising you ignored all of it. 2000 calories of sugar is not the same as 2000 calories of carbs/fat/protein. So stop with the bull that type does not matter only total calories. Someone eating 1800 calories of carbs all day will be diabetic with high triglycerides and other issues in most cases.
So much science has demonstrated not eating close to bed time to maintain or lose weight that for you to say otherwise means you dont know what you are talking about.
Don't talk to me about research and then state things that go counter to most common research.
There are 5 to 7 of us here who research this info almost as a 2d hobby so dont come here unless you have put in the hours.
I did not say to eat 2000 calories of sugar, in fact I said to reduce carbs but if you have to have some of it then try some before going to bed. So the issue is timing. Your argument is that the timing is bad, and I’m saying it generally doesn’t make a difference if you keep the overall calories the same. I did mention satiation so you will get hungry if you consume 100% sugar very quickly but generally the principal is the same. I did not suggest to do this, on the contrary to reduce carbs, but the human body is incredibly adaptive so long as you get your vitamins. It’s very hard to go 100% protein or 100% carbs but there are people that go on those diets and they have good markers unless they have a disease as you mentioned. Think vegetarians and hardcore paleo folks. In fact I remember one professor who experimented only on junk food with vitamins and strict calorie count, and his markers were fine. He made sure not to consumer junk food in front of his kids.
The most important marker of health is actually just weight (total calorie count) and statistical correlation around that and less evidence in types of foods. Just like in finance size matters.
You may be biased towards heavy weight lifting but the fact remains that direct empirical evidence says heavy weights is bad for your heart. Within that constraint, there are plenty of super fit people who get by without heavy weightlifting: I mentioned marines but there are plenty of others. Boxers generally as a rule never lift weights .. just repetition, heavy rope and medicine balls etc and they seem to be pretty fit to me with decent muscle mass. Even light weights with very high reps is hard if you do enough reps even. The disadvantage is time required due to higher reps but you can maintain nonstop exercise without the need of frequent resting between sets with heavier weight lifting.
I do take these things seriously. I have 3 degrees including a PhD and I am trained to only accept information from referred journal publications.
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I am not biased towards it...I just dont make silly generalizations. But most PhD usually make generalizations based on studies with faulty data and study methods. Plenty of studies have been proven wrong by simply showing the results are statistical insignificant. But again most PhD simply read a journal article and take it as gospel without diving into the study statistics.
Try to think for yourself and dont just read a study and cite it as fact. A PhD does not grant you you automatic certification if you are basing statements on generalized statements pulled from studies that dont have significant samples.
Plenty of PhDs wrote articles stating fat was the culprit in heart disease and were proven wrong. Phds spent years focused on genetic theory of cancer and 30 years later proved nothing. Not impressed with PhD. I have two graduate degrees but I still drive into the facts and see if they are true or just opinions.
100% carbs or proteins? Typical PhD to take an extreme unrealistic example to make a point...wow. hope you kept the receipt. So 1 professor did a study.....how realistic.... I know a guy who ate McD 4 times a week and is thin . If I had a PhD i would say McD is health food and leads to lean body mass.
This is not about Paleo or vegan. Dont make silly generalizations and think a PHd makes it ok. Actually makes me think current status if critical thinking in graduate programs is to simply get published even if data does not support the hypothesis but comes close.
Try to think for yourself and dont just read a study and cite it as fact. A PhD does not grant you you automatic certification if you are basing statements on generalized statements pulled from studies that dont have significant samples.
Plenty of PhDs wrote articles stating fat was the culprit in heart disease and were proven wrong. Phds spent years focused on genetic theory of cancer and 30 years later proved nothing. Not impressed with PhD. I have two graduate degrees but I still drive into the facts and see if they are true or just opinions.
100% carbs or proteins? Typical PhD to take an extreme unrealistic example to make a point...wow. hope you kept the receipt. So 1 professor did a study.....how realistic.... I know a guy who ate McD 4 times a week and is thin . If I had a PhD i would say McD is health food and leads to lean body mass.
This is not about Paleo or vegan. Dont make silly generalizations and think a PHd makes it ok. Actually makes me think current status if critical thinking in graduate programs is to simply get published even if data does not support the hypothesis but comes close.
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You are the one getting off track. My first point is simple - is it so hard to believe lifting heavy weights may be bad for your heart? If that is possible, then is there a way to train without heavy weights (>50%) to reduce this risk especially if you are over 50 which the OP mentioned as a concern.
And then I mentioned to have a bit of carbs before bedtime and then you went on a total bender.
