Fisher just admitted price of oil higher becuase of specs

Quote from Neenisti:

Ignorance is truly bliss.

If any of you think monthly speculators drove oil from $50 to $145, back down to $30 and now back up to where we are at now, you need your head examined.

Talk to OPEC and the ETF's.

Don't be so anal. Calling someone a "speculator" or "manipulator" is just a matter of perspective. They're two sides of the same coin and that coin has nothing to do with an entirely different coin of the structural/fundamental variety.
 
Quote from jprad:

Don't be so anal. Calling someone a "speculator" or "manipulator" is just a matter of perspective. They're two sides of the same coin and that coin has nothing to do with an entirely different coin of the structural/fundamental variety.

You think "speculators" and "manipulators" are one in the same?

Many have tried to corner markets and failed. They failed for a reason. Commodities can't be manipulated for long periods. The more unique individuals participating in an individual commodity then the less likely that specific commodity can be manipulated and there are many many many people trading Crude.

Local colleges offer business and economic classes each quarter, sign up soon. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
 
"Commodities can't be manipulated for long periods"

Nothing can. Does that stop penny stock manipulators from making millions.

Why would that stop the oil mob from raking it in?

Learn.

wtf is a long period. you can make tens of billions in 6 months or less


who do you think is financing the longs? shorts???

bullshit. its you and your half wit uncle at the pump.


here , have a shat .
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Quote from stock777:

Does that stop penny stock manipulators from making millions.

If you think manipulating penny stocks is the same as cornering or trying to manipulate a commodity you are way more naive than any of us every imagined.
 
Quote from Neenisti:

You think "speculators" and "manipulators" are one in the same?

Many have tried to corner markets and failed. They failed for a reason. Commodities can't be manipulated for long periods. The more unique individuals participating in an individual commodity then the less likely that specific commodity can be manipulated and there are many many many people trading Crude.

Local colleges offer business and economic classes each quarter, sign up soon. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

You just hit the nail!. Marc Rich, the greaters and most powerfull physical trader ever existed lost his company (glencore) trying to corner the Market in 1992.

The WTI went from 145 to 34 at the same time the USD/EURO went from 1,66 to 1,20. Yes, the Indexes and ETF play a big role in the oil markets, But the FED is the ultimate manipulator in this industry. if you're an oil producer and the dollars goes down you want more dollar for your product, plain and simple!.

What we need is more especulators (Not the other way around) and get rid of those ETFs and those GoldmanSachs Indexes and of course a stronger US dollar. Right Now the WTI is the cheaper crude grade in the market. Brent is trading at 126, LLS at 127, Urals at 122, Minas at 126, Forties at 126, Bonny Light at 128. and none of those crude grade are centralized!.

BTW Crude oil is used in more than 6000 products that goes from plastic to a lipstick.. So Yes, the supply/demand is also a HUGE factor.
 
Quote from rubibond007:

You just hit the nail!. Marc Rich, the greaters and most powerfull physical trader ever existed lost his company (glencore) trying to corner the Market in 1992.

The WTI went from 145 to 34 at the same time the USD/EURO went from 1,66 to 1,20. Yes, the Indexes and ETF play a big role in the oil markets, But the FED is the ultimate manipulator in this industry. If you are a Oil Producer and the dollars goes down you want more dollar for your product, plain and simple!.

What we need is more especulators (Not the other way around) and get rid of those ETFs and those GoldmanSachs Indexes and of course a stronger US dollar.

Right Now the WTI is the cheaper crude grade in the market. Brent is trading at 126, LLS at 127, Urals at 122, Minas at 126, Forties at 126, Bonny Light at 128. and none of those crude grade trade are centralized!

BTW Crude oil is used in more than 6000 products that goes from plastic to a lipstick.. So Yes, the supply/demand is also a HUGE factor.

Nicely stated.
Too bad more people don't try to educate themselves more on the markets effecting them.
 
Quote from Neenisti:

If you think manipulating penny stocks is the same as cornering or trying to manipulate a commodity you are way more naive than any of us every imagined.

but I made money shorting oil, and you didn't.

winning.

and who is us? you and your hamster?
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EMR! LOL. I don't think I've ever seen you get so pissed off. At least you calmed down toward the end. Hey, those who understand capitalism use it to their advantage. Those who don't whine about it or put their hand out. There's an easy friggin way NOT to pay more at the pump. Buy blasted crude futures.

Some day the government will be taxing WIND. Wanna know how to offset the tax? Buy wind futures or invest in windmill manufacturers.

Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

CNBC? the station for idiots and zombies?

Fisher is only .25% right with in a short time frame. Sure, when there are more "Speculators" long the price will be forced up. But most of you fucking clowns make it seem as if oil went from 30 to 113 due to SPECULATORS.

YOU ARE THE VERY FOOLS WHO THREATEN CAPITALISM. YOU ARE THE IDIOTS WHO HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST IN EITHER SPECULATION, RISK TAKING, OR CREATING WEALTH THROUGH BUSINESS START UPS. YOU MY FRIEND ARE A PARASITE OF THE WORST KIND!

Oh well, who is John Galt?
 
Quote from stock777:

Fisher told you it was a scam. I told you it was a scam.

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You misquoted Fisher.
You are irrelevant and are information challenged.

Does your teacher know you are using a computer?
 
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