First time I've ever cracked up laughing in the voting booth...

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Why aren't those that are committing suicide receiving proper help?

Medical orthodoxy's stubborn neurotransmitter fixation, in combination with the draconian prohibition laws, creates the frequent situation where severely depressed patients are given one irrelevant neurotransmitter re-uptake inhibitor medication after another, instead of the opioid medication they so desperately need.

<b>Type A Depression</b> results from a neurotransmitter deficiency, and can be remedied via the neurotransmitter reuptake inhibitors (Zoloft, Paxil, Welbutrin, Effexor, etc...)

<b>Type B Depression</b> results from an endogenous opioid (Endorphins, dynorphins, enkephalins) deficiency, and can be remedied with opioid medication. Out of these, Buprenorphine is usually the best choice.

<b>Type C, or Combination Depression</b> results from both neurotransmitter AND endogenous opioid deficiencies. Type C depression patients require neurotransmitter reuptake inhibitors in combination with opioid medication.

Modern medical orthodoxy recognizes <b>only</b> Type A depression, and remains widely ignorant of the other two varieties. This ignorance results in tens of thousands of suicides per year, while ruining millions of additional lives.

Fortunately, within a decade or two, my assertions will become common medical knowledge. Suicide rates across the developed world will plummet at last.

www.ProhibitionKills.com

(Yes, I know that was completely irrelevant to this discussion, but you asked, and the endogenous opioid-depression-opioid connection is my biggest social cause of all. I authored all of the material on ProhibitionKills.com.)
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

......instead of the opioid medication they so desperately need......

Are they also afraid that the depressed patient will become "addicted" to the opioid meds?

I've read some time ago that a lot of doctors refuse to give pain medication (opioid type?) to hospital patients even if they are in outrageous pain because they are afraid they will become addicted.

The docs should know that the body will use the amount necessary for the pain only and rarely will they become addicted after the pain stops. The body will no longer request more meds.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Oh, look! There it is again. Priceless.
:D

(Sorry, hombre, we are not going to agree on this, so I may as well have some fun at your expense. But that's ok, you can handle it. You're armed, locked and loaded.)

Ok then.

If you don't want to admit reality, then that's fine with me...

Peace...
 
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Are they also afraid that the depressed patient will become "addicted" to the opioid meds?
I've read some time ago that a lot of doctors refuse to give pain medication (opioid type?) to hospital patients even if they are in outrageous pain because they are afraid they will become addicted.</i>


Yes, that's one of two main fears doctors have regarding opioid medication. The other key factor: <b>Fear of oppression by the prohibition enforcement thugs.</b> Uneducated DEA agents currently have the power to dictate to physicians how to practice medicine, and commonly persecute those M.D.s who are 'too generous’ with their narcotic scripts.

See: http://www.aapsonline.org/press/hurwitz1002.htm

Even Conservative Fox News admits there is a problem: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133204,00.html

More, from congressman Ron Paul: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul179.html

The disgraceful actions of the prohibition enforcement goons, combined with the U.S. Dipyrone ban, created a temporary artificial demand for Vioxx, a lethal 'medication' responsible for 30,000-50,000 deaths.

Like I told you; <b>Prohibition Kills.</b>

<i>The docs should know that the body will use the amount necessary for the pain only and rarely will they become addicted after the pain stops. The body will no longer request more meds.</i>

I'm a bit of an expert on narcotics. There's actually a very simple way to gauge whether an individual does or doesn't have a high risk factor to become addicted to opiates. Ever take hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco, Lortab, etc.)? A side effect of this medication, is that it makes most people sleepy/ lethargic. They just want to lie down and rest. However, when some people encounter hydrocodone for the first time, they get the exact <b>opposite</b> effect: It actually makes them highly energetic. Those are the individuals who are most likely to develop an opiate habit.
 
Beyond weird, but it's ok that 800,000 to 1,000,000 people die annually from the side effects of modern health care: incompetence, infections, accidents, unnecessary surgery, etc.

Modern health care is by far the number one cause of death, but the war on drugs and doctors is top priority.

How about a war on stupidity?
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

Beyond weird, but it's ok that 800,000 to 1,000,000 people die annually from the side effects of modern health care: incompetence, infections, accidents, unnecessary surgery, etc.

Modern health care is by far the number one cause of death, but the war on drugs and doctors is top priority.

How about a war on stupidity?

However, without modern medicine, ten times that many people would die.

Speaking of war on stupidity, here is a website where you get a chance to vote for stupidity of the year, named in honor of Charles Darwin:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
Last year's winner:
After an evening spent imbibing large quantities of alcohol, Christopher noticed a shortage in his liquor supply that could not be attributed to his own depredations. He concluded that his neighbor had stolen a bottle of booze! He menaced the neighbor with a knife, to no avail, whereupon he retired to his own apartment to brood about revenge.

Finally he figured out the perfect way to get back at that conniving bottle-thief: Christopher would stab himself and blame the neighbor!

A witness saw Christopher enter the bathroom as he called 911. He calmly informed the dispatcher that his neighbor had stabbed him. Witnesses said he looked fine when he emerged from the bathroom, but a moment later gouts of blood spewed from his chest. Suddenly he began screaming begging for help. The dispatcher heard a woman shout, "Why did you do this?" He collapsed at the door of his apartment.

Deputies arrived quickly, but Christopher had already bled to death from self-inflicted stab wounds to his chest. An autopsy determined that he had stabbed himself in the chest twice. The first wound apparently didn't look dangerous enough, so he tried again. The second time, the knife plunged into his left ventricle. This wound was plenty dangerous: he had only two minutes to live.

Christopher died in vain. His deathbed accusation of his neighbor failed, as a witness confirmed that the neighbor was not in the apartment. All Christopher got for revenge was an accidental death sentence.
 
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

However, without modern medicine, ten times that many people would die.

Speaking of war on stupidity, here is a website where you get a chance to vote for stupidity of the year, named in honor of Charles Darwin:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
Last year's winner:

Looks like Christopher effectively removed himself from the gene pool. Such a loss of a clever man. Probably even thought is was a good idea at the time.
 
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