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First time I've ever cracked up laughing in the voting booth...
- Thread starter Rearden Metal
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Quote from james_bond_3rd:
I guess it's hard to get through your thick skull.
There is no arms confiscation program. If you can't tell who's going to get the machine guns, banning all means you cut off the supply. Then you regulate the small arms so that the bad guys can't get them.
In your sister's case, she won because she was better armed. Could it be that the bad guys didn't have guns because they weren't able to get them? What would've happened if the bad guys had machine guns and your sister only had a pistol? Are you suggesting that your sister should pull the gun and have a shoot out?
Well, it looks like you just qualified yourself as a dipshit...
There's no arms race either, moron. So your previous question is what one would call.....Strawman?
And my sister didn't get off because she was better armed, she got off 'cause she's smarter than them. And by the way, why no answer to my question about what you think would have happened to her? Is you skeered to admit your moronic position?
Again, you never hear about the benefits of armed citizens 'cause it's...... not a news story. You show your ignorance by not acknowledging that..
Quote from james_bond_3rd:
Guns are anti-Christian.
Certain people's certain behaviors are anti-Christian. Guns are inanimate objects. They do not do anything.
Quote from james_bond_3rd:
I guess it's hard to get through your thick skull.
There is no arms confiscation program. If you can't tell who's going to get the machine guns, banning all means you cut off the supply. Then you regulate the small arms so that the bad guys can't get them.
In your sister's case, she won because she was better armed. Could it be that the bad guys didn't have guns because they weren't able to get them? What would've happened if the bad guys had machine guns and your sister only had a pistol? Are you suggesting that your sister should pull the gun and have a shoot out?
Machine guns were banned in 1934. Small arms are plenty regulated.
What if Haroki's sister was unarmed and the 3 thugs were unarmed?
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Firearms are used 2.5 million times per year in self-defense and almost everytime the criminal act is stopped by only the sight of the firearm. Even the Clinton Administration admitted firearms are used at least 1.5 million times per year for self-defense. The police cannot be everywhere to protect everyone. The police usually respond after the crime has been committed.
Justice Department study:
3/5 of felons polled agreed that "a criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun."21
* 74% of felons polled agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime."22
* 57% of felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."23
Quote from Thunderdog:
I'm glad that the episode ended well for your sister. However, I'm surprised that the thugs didn't pull out their automatic assault weaponry in response. Perhaps it was casual Friday.
If someone had snuck up on your sister from behind and mugged her, then he would also have gotten the gun in her purse. Consider what harm that item could then do in the wrong hands. Around and around we go.
Let's just say that a lot of innocent people are lucky because it ended well for your sister.
Is James Bond an alias?
You just lumped yourself in with that loser too...
Your another sucker that believes that gun ownership has nothing but downside to it. And all because the positive stories like my sister's aren't news worthy. You should try broadening your horizons a little and look on both sides of the fence before you spew your crap...
I'm fine with admitting that gun ownership, even in the hands of good people can be bad, many scenarios come to mind. But to ignore the positive aspects shows your ignorance on the subject too. For you, it's apparently an emotional issue only for you. And I have no respect for that...
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Certain people's certain behaviors are anti-Christian. Guns are inanimate objects. They do not do anything.
Guns are not inanimate objects. They're made to kill. The only question is whether you use them to kill good or bad people. But killing is not "inanimate."
Quote from james_bond_3rd:
Guns are not inanimate objects. They're made to kill. The only question is whether you use them to kill good or bad people. But killing is not "inanimate."
Still sounds like guns are inanimate:
animate /'an-e-met = possessing life, alive
inanimate = not endowed with life, lacking power of motion
Stones are inanimate objects. They were not made to kill, but they could be used to kill.
Almost all guns in the hands of civilians are not used to kill. Guns are made almost always for defense.
The 300 million guns in civilian possession are used 214 times more often for defense than for killing.
Suppose there were no such thing as guns, that they had never been invented. People would be armed with knives and swords with just as many people killed annually as with guns. Mostly drug deals gone bad.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Still sounds like guns are inanimate:
animate /'an-e-met = possessing life, alive
inanimate = not endowed with life, lacking power of motion
Stones are inanimate objects. They were not made to kill, but they could be used to kill.
Almost all guns in the hands of civilians are not used to kill. Guns are made almost always for defense.
The 300 million guns in civilian possession are used 214 times more often for defense than for killing.
Suppose there were no such thing as guns, that they had never been invented. People would be armed with knives and swords with just as many people killed annually as with guns. Mostly drug deals gone bad.
Wrong and wrong.
The only purpose of a gun is to kill. How do you suppose to use a gun in self-defense? Wave it at the bad guy but not shoot?
Suicide is the #1 cause of gun related deaths. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. In 2003, those percentages were 56% suicides, 40% homicides. So the most use for guns is not for self-defense, it's for self-killing.
Any sane person would know that it's much harder to kill with a knife than with a gun. "Just as many people killed?" Nonsense. According to this study,
http://www.unicri.it/wwk/publications/books/series/understanding/19_GUN_OWNERSHIP.pdf
the level of gun ownership world-wide is directly correlated to murder and suicide rates, with a very high degree of statistical confidence.
Gunshot wound deaths is behind traffic related deaths as second leading cause of injury death. Also, although suicides and homicides account for over 96% of all gunshot related deaths, about 20% of gunshot related injuries treated in hospital emergency departments in the United States are unintentional.
People have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot.
Quote from james_bond_3rd:
The only purpose of a gun is to kill. How do you suppose to use a gun in self-defense? Wave it at the bad guy?
Uh, yeah.....
In my sister's case, 'waving' it worked just fine.
Why don't you just admit that you're just ignorant of the benefits of gun ownership, and quit embarassing yourself......
Quote from Haroki:
Uh, yeah.....
In my sister's case, 'waving' it worked just fine.
Why don't you just admit that you're just ignorant of the benefits of gun ownership, and quit embarassing yourself......
You really have a thick skull. It only worked because of the implicit threat to kill. If "waving" it works just fine, why not wave a flag?
Interesting how you chopped off the end of "waving it but not shoot" to distort my post. Even you know that by not threatening to shoot, your gun is useless.
neophyte321
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Quote from james_bond_3rd:
Wrong and wrong.
The only purpose of a gun is to kill. How do you suppose to use a gun in self-defense? Wave it at the bad guy but not shoot?
Suicide is the #1 cause of gun related deaths. In 1999, 58% of all gun deaths were suicides, and 38% were homicides. In 2003, those percentages were 56% suicides, 40% homicides. So the most use for guns is not for self-defense, it's for self-killing.
Any sane person would know that it's much harder to kill with a knife than with a gun. "Just as many people killed?" Nonsense. According to this study,
http://www.unicri.it/wwk/publications/books/series/understanding/19_GUN_OWNERSHIP.pdf
the level of gun ownership world-wide is directly correlated to murder and suicide rates, with a very high degree of statistical confidence.
Gunshot wound deaths is behind traffic related deaths as second leading cause of injury death. Also, although suicides and homicides account for over 96% of all gunshot related deaths, about 20% of gunshot related injuries treated in hospital emergency departments in the United States are unintentional.
People have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot.
what was your position on the Teri Schiavo case.
It's a bit transparent of you to bring up gun-related suicide rates
Guns are used for sport. Target practice, the biathalon , etc ... If you consider shooting pheasants murder, then ... you are, indeed, a girly-man ..