Fired for criticizing Israel

[a_person]

Quote from omegapoint:

Killing hundreds of thousands of women and children in the name of Yahwee is indefensible.

Indeed it is not. Fortunately it need not be defended as it never happened. Jews never killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs to begin with, not even close. They certainly did not kill hundreds of thousands of women and children in the name of Yahwee. Arabs did, arabs killed hundreds of thousands of women and children, muslims killed hundreds of thousands of women and children (including btw the victims of 9/11) in the name of Allah, not the jews.

The Israelis killed foreign invaders who tried to drive them into the sea, they killed terrorists blowing themselves up in pizza parlors and malls, they killed militants firing rockets at Israeli cities. And if the terrorists hide among the civilian population, if they set up their rocket launchers in school yards and hide their weapons in residential buildings - the blood of innocent women and children caught in the cross fire is squarely on their hands.

PS still waiting for the list of moderate Palestinians who according to you are working tirelessly toward a two state solution and peace with Israel. Still waiting...

 

[Capablanca]

I think it is fair to say that the influence of Israel on the United States is very disproportionate to the population of those with Israeli or Jewish descent in the United States.

The US media (MSM) is very pro-Israel. I used to wonder if there was truth in this allegation. I have concluded there is. If you go abroad and watch the local news you will seldom see or hear anything about Israel. To put it bluntly the goings on there are of no interest to most people and if you think about it, rightly so. If you watch CNN or US news, however, every single incident that can be remotely justified having to do with Israel is documented. People getting killed is newsworthy, but why is it that if one or two people get killed in Israel it is news in the US but if a couple of people are killed in let's say Colombia chances are it isn't?

A jarring experience I had that drove home the point of how brainwashed Americans are regarding the issue was one time when I was watching C-Span a Kansas housewife phoned in and expressed her concern for those "poor Israelis". I'm baffled. What concern is it really of a Kansas housewife what happens to Israelis? Would she have called in to say the same of those poor Rwandans? Or maybe more understandably since it is closer to home those poor Mexicans?

The entire fight between Israelis and Arabs in the Middle East is a giant distraction that by all rights should have little relevance to everybody else except that those two groups keep on trying to get everyone else involved on their side. Both the Israelis and Arabs in that fight are ATTENTION SEEKING WHORES. Let the government engage them if necessary but the general public should recognize the publicity campaigns these two groups are engaging in and ignore them or be aware of and point out the manipulation that is being carried out. If you couldn't care less if Indians and Pakistanis (both nuclear armed) started killing each other, there should be no reason you should care if Israelis and Palestinians started killing each other either. Guess which conflict has more screen time on US T.V. though?

 

[Gringinho]

Capablanca,

excellent points and observations.
Also note how US foreign policy came to reverberate all the concerns of Israel through the Neo-con influence of the Bush administration.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

PNAC was the brainchild of Neo-con low-life William Kristol. I call him a low-life because of his repulsive, aggressive and corrupting elitist ideology with total disregard for common human values, society, consensual government, democratic processes and international law.

 

[Gringinho]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Shahak
An interesting book about Israel which is available on the Internet (Mininova etc) is:

Jewish Fundamentalism In Israel
"Shahak is a very brave man who should be honored for his services to humanity ... [He is] one of the most remarkable individuals in the contemporary Middle East." -- Edward Said

"An outstanding scholar, with remarkable insight and depth of knowledge. His work is informed and penetrating, a contribution of great value." -- Noam Chomsky

This is a new edition of a classic and highly controversial book that examines the history and consequences of Jewish fundamentalism in Israel. Fully updated throughout, with new chapters and a new introduction by Norton Mezvinsky, it is essential reading for anyone who wants a full understanding of the way religious extremism has affected the political development of the modern Israeli state.

Acclaimed writer and human rights campaigner Israel Shahak was, up until his death in 2001, one of the most respected of Israel's peace activists -- he was, in the words of Gore Vidal, 'the latest -- if not the last -- of the great prophets.' Written by Shahak together with American scholar Norton Mezvinsky, this book shows how Jewish fundamentalism in Israel, as shown in the activities of religious settlers, is of great political importance.

The authors trace the history and development of Jewish fundamentalism, examining the various different strains, and they identify the messianic tendency as the most dangerous. Shahak and Mezvinsky place the assassination of Prime Minister Rabin in the context of what they see as a tradition of punishments and killings of those Jews perceived to be heretics.

They conclude that Jewish fundamentalism is essentially hostile to democracy because it opposes equality for all citizens, and therefore it poses a considerable threat to democracy in Israel.