Maverick,
I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by the acceptance by you and others here of a Finland type payment as long as it goes to everyone and is the same for everyone. I wonder if there isn't space for some kind of agreement here if your thoughts are similar to the rest of the conservative side that is against entitlements in general?
I think most liberals think that what conservatives are against at its core is wealth redistribution, which would still happen under this Finnish model as long as taxes were still progressive. If they're OK with the Finnish model, I think the vast majority of liberals would be on board with that too. Your description of the voting bloc issue probably would be a stumbling block amongst the professional politician class, but I'm talking the majority of liberal voters. Do you think your views (supporting something like this model to replace the existing entitlement model) represent the majority of conservatives who generally oppose entitlements? If so, that's actually pretty exciting to hear as someone who's generally on the other side of that argument.
I could give two shits about wealth distribution. I care about long term costs. THAT is where the real distribution occurs. Yes, the Finnish model is much more efficient and by efficient I mean the long term costs to society will be far less and in fact, there will be less wealth distribution, not more. Conservatives in general (I'm not one of them) do not oppose entitlements, they oppose abuse of entitlements especially the left using entitlements for votes. This is why they scream louder then a baby if you threaten to cut social security benefits. They WANT entitlements, they just don't like how they are used by the left to win elections. If you remove the mechanism by which the left scores votes, you would find they would happily support these entitlements. And this is why the left would NEVER support this Finnish model, trust me. Oh they would at first until they read all the op ed pieces about it and they would change their minds quickly.
Look, it was a republican, Richard Nixon, that first came up with the idea of universal healthcare by expanding Medicaid for everyone. He came up with this proposal because he thought it would be far more efficient then moving to a single payer model where the gov't had to run the healthcare system. In the end, his proposal would have lowered long term costs tremendously. Who opposed it? You guessed it, the liberals. And round and round we go.