financial transaction tax is on the table for real

Financial Stock transaction tax is a real possibility.

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FTT tax plus capital gains tax is a double taxation. It stands to reason that people start trading less as intended by FTT. Therefore it's politicians pipe dream that they are going to raise any money.
 
It will never happen. Look at how hard the CME and CBOT lobbied against EU dealers of binaries, exotics and CFDs for US residents. Imagine the markets essentially ceasing to exist if Bernie's or Bloomberg's plan passed the House and Senate. It would never pass the Senate.
 
horror is now a reality in Germany. The Democrats of the USA are interested in a software program called SGB2, which effectively turns off the social welfare office. Slave provision service with no chance of advancement. Quality of life and over. Exchange trading for private individuals over. And the program finds the Sanders movement very good. If an American reads this then it is already done in Germany as a test country.
And the Derivatives Tax Act is published in the German Federal Gazette and by.
 
Does anyone understand how this tax would be applied to a futures contract? For instance, the value of 1 ES right now is around $168,000. If the FTT is .1%, the tax is $168 one way. Is that the way they figure it? Or do they use some other method? If it's the way I just suggested I think that closes down the ES market.

It wouldn't, since index futures are derivatives which are subject to CFTC oversight, which is separate from the SEC. Section 1256 contracts, baby!

Basically, here's what would happen if they tried to pull the FTT on futures. The Gubment/SEC are the pissers, and the CFTC are the BBoys cops at the end, beating the hell out of the SEC regulators. :)

 
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It wouldn't, since index futures are derivatives which are subject to CFTC oversight, which is separate from the SEC. Section 1256 contracts, baby!

Basically, here's what would happen if they tried to pull the FTT on futures. The Gubment/SEC are the pissers, and the CFTC are the BBoys cops at the end, beating the hell out of the SEC regulators. :)


wtf are you smoking? a gov't agency (CFTC) can't override a tax law that's passed by congress.

is this what outright denial looks like?
 
wtf are you smoking? a gov't agency (CFTC) can't override a tax law that's passed by congress.

is this what outright denial looks like?

A stock futures transaction is not the same as a commodity futures transaction. We'll have to see the details of this bill before we can argue it further I reckon, because all I hear about the FFT from the grapevine is stocks stocks stocks.
 
A futures transaction is not the same as a stock transaction. We'll have to see the details of this bill before we can argue it further I reckon, because all I hear about the FFT from the grapevine is stocks stocks stocks.

read the actual proposals instead of just hearing from the grapevine. it literally says 0.1% across stocks/bonds/derivatives for bloomberg and 0.5%/0.1%/0.005% for stocks/bonds/derivatives respectively for sanders.

ironically, sanders' ftt is much lower than bloomberg's for derivatives. bloomberg is out of his mind for proposing a 0.1% across stocks, bonds, and derivatives. esp since he basically got rich off of people buying his services for trading.

now that he's got his billions, it's essentially a case of "i got mine, now fuck you."

at least sanders is honest and wants to do what he believes is best for the country (although i disagree with some of his methods).

bloomberg literally only cares about himself and accruing power. fuck bloomberg.
 
if you can't afford a 0.1% tax on your trades, you aren't doing it right.

I made like $135k on about 500k shares of TSLA over a 4 day period a couple of weeks ago. I would say I traded it just fine. However, with this tax I would have had to pay $400k or so in taxes. Unless there's a massive increase in volatility then day trading would be pretty dead.
 
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