Its a constitutional right that is completely outdated and should have been changed long time ago. Firearms only hinder faster growth and progression, instead of focusing on how to set the environment for people to increase their wealth and happiness factions are fighting over firearm issues, people shoot each other, kids bring weapons to school. I do not expect it will change no matter what other tragedies will occur but fact is that a United States of America will do a lot better without firearms. Look at the current shale gas developments, its quite possible that with this and other moves on the commodities and fossil fuel front the US may be largely independent of Middle Eastern oil sooner than any of those camel riders thought. Let's focus on that instead of firearms. They really add zero value to the well being of this society.
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Financial Damage of Colorado Killer
- Thread starter oldtime
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the topic will not be paid much attention to simply because it does not benefit either party. Republicans better shut up about it, Dems derive zero benefit from bringing it up because as you mentioned the pro-fire-arms-bearing faction is simply too large to ignore.
Quote from Whistlingleaf:
Maybe now Congress will put on their big boy panties and tell the NRA to stuff it, and create some real gun laws before November's election.
But don't count on that happening cause the NRA is way too powerful in Republican primaries.
At least the NRA will be silenced from now until after the election.
Quote from sheda:
Just because you have a gun and have used it at the range does not mean you will have what it takes to respond when a life or death situation appears literally out of no where when you least expect it...
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this is the prime example why I abhor the right of people to carry firearms. You gotta be kidding me. People walking around in public with fire arms in their pockets? Why don't we nuke Columbia or all of Latin America to stop the drug trafficking. Or for that matter we should carry our nukes with us because there may be terrorists walking around. Why not all bringing baseball bets and knives to school because our classmates may bully us. The argument that fire arms are for one's protection is the most flawed argument I have every heard, it could potentially be the most flawed argument in modern times.
This dumb retiree may have as well killed innocent bystanders or kids. Just because he aimed at a robber does not mean the bullet stays there. I am ok with fire arms at home (locked up or unloaded) but taking them around to coffee shops and internet cafes? This guy should be charged as well. Damn.
This dumb retiree may have as well killed innocent bystanders or kids. Just because he aimed at a robber does not mean the bullet stays there. I am ok with fire arms at home (locked up or unloaded) but taking them around to coffee shops and internet cafes? This guy should be charged as well. Damn.
Quote from southall:
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Quote from dcvtss:
That's what sets the US constitution apart, it recognizes existing, inherent rights...
There are no "inherent" rights.
As evidenced by the American Experience, which for all the high falutin' words ran legalized slavery, and then de facto slavery, for the better part of 200 years.
Quote from Whistlingleaf:
At least the NRA will be silenced from now until after the election.
The NRA cares as much about the "rights" of regular schmoes as Hoffa's Teamsters cared about the pensions of truck drivers. It is nothing more than a self-serving, hypocritical barrel of special interest group lobbying dung more interested in its own survival than anything else.
It confuses you because you view rights as something that are "granted" by monarchs, not as inherent to human existence. That's what sets the US constitution apart, it recognizes existing, inherent rights, though the powers that be here are doing their best to train everyone to agree with your line of thinking.
What century are you from? Ah yea the one in which you think you have firearms to protect your self from your own government of which you have zero control over or response to. The above is not what causes my confusion perhaps you should read my post several more times to gain an understanding.
71 year old man shoots at two young kids attempting to pull off a robbery
Nice, I am just glad they were two young kids thinking they were powerful by wielding a handgun without the skills or nerve to use it in a heated situation, as opposed to lunatics with assault rifles who are more than willing to open up on a crowd of people if an individual in that crowd poses a danger to there own life and criminal operations.
lol, because people with criminal motivations can buy the gun 5 miles across the boarder in the next state. This is a pandora's box. Once it is open you can't close it anymore. But yes countries with strict gun laws have MUCH MUCH lower crime rates. Europe, Japan, Asia,...or is it that our gene pools are not yet sullied? LOL
Quote from zdreg:
nobody on this has offered any statistics that proves that murders and shootings and the crime rates are lower in states with tough gun control laws.
Found this yesterday.
What are the firearms related deaths as a whole in the states annually?
Number of Murders, United States, 2009: 15,241
Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009: 9,146
Number of Murders, Britain, 2008*: 648
(Since Britainâs population is 1/5 that of US, this is equivalent to 3,240 US murders)
Number of Murders by firearms, Britain, 2008* 39
(equivalent to 195 US murders)
*The Home office reported murder statistics in the UK for the 12 months to March 2009, but these are 12-month figures).
For more on murder by firearms in Britain, see the BBC.
The international comparisons show conclusively that fewer gun owners per capita produce not only fewer murders by firearm, but fewer murders per capita over all. In the case of Britain, firearms murders are 48 times fewer than in the US.
What are the firearms related deaths as a whole in the states annually?