Film Reviews: "Broke: The New American Dream"

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Quote from Thunderdog:

Hate? Why the emotional attachment?

It's pretty obvious........years ago Surf came home to find his girlfriend in bed with John Henry. Upon finding this Surf stormed out of his house only to find that Bill Dunn had hotwired and stolen Surf's car. Dunn drove away and in the process ran over a homeless Victor Neiderhoffer who was living inside an old refrigerator box next to a sewer on Surf's street.


Surf never recovered mentally from this day..........
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

That's actually good advice for some. Not that I personally have anything to write about, but I can't help but feel that posting here is time poorly spent.

I read your turtle book. It was fairly decent and put some more meat on the bones of what was an interesting story. However, I note the animosity between you and Curtis Faith. Maybe you two should do a book together...:D

Here'a an idea for you. Why not do a book on charlatan vendors with questionable pasts, claims and practices? The industry is littered with shady characters, some of whom come and go, but others that persist like the tumors that they are. William Gallacher covered a few in his Winner Take All, but perhaps you could build on it. Newcomers often fall prey and I imagine such a book could serve as essential reading for anyone wishing to participate in the markets and is under the mistaken impression that the world is chock-full of people who want to help them succeed. This subject matter may not have the gravitas of covering trading icons and such, but that stuff is already being done to death. I would think an exposé would be well received by everyone other than crooks. Sunshine is, after all, the best disinfectant, as Supreme Court Justice Brandeis once so adroitly pointed out.

Give it some thought.


While this appears to be an excellent idea, I attempted to produce a book with the exact premise several years ago. The publisher recieved several cease and desist letters thus quashed the project prior to fruition. If you are willing to take serious heat and self publish---- you might make enough to pay a defense lawyers retainer.

you would be shocked and dismayed at the steps some of these jokers go to to protect their franchise--fraudulent or not.

the aggravations, threats and schemes make the idea practically non executible and a bad risk/reward profile.

regards,

surf


ps. your favorite guru was in my sights at the start, but research proved that your allegations and hearsay was not enough controversy to make the list....
 
Quote from EPrado:

It's pretty obvious........years ago Surf came home to find his girlfriend in bed with John Henry. Upon finding this Surf stormed out of his house only to find that Bill Dunn had hotwired and stolen Surf's car. Dunn drove away and in the process ran over a homeless Victor Neiderhoffer who was living inside an old refrigerator box next to a sewer on Surf's street.


Surf never recovered mentally from this day..........



:D

you forgot to add the race horse who trampled my lunch belonged to a "trend follower".

:D
 
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Quote from Trend Following:

Fungus has nothing on you

I have been called worse than fungus. When I revealed, for example, that the youngest Turtle's firm had imploded and was banned by the CFTC, he referred to me as an "asshole", "idiot shyster", and "spiteful jealous liar". He threatened lawsuits everywhere including against ET.

This all goes with the job of uncovering hidden details. As examples, look at the vitriol thrown at reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein when they exposed Nixon. Look at the two young people who have exposed Acorn recently.

So...

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Quote from marketsurfer:

While this appears to be an excellent idea, I attempted to produce a book with the exact premise several years ago. The publisher recieved several cease and desist letters thus quashed the project prior to fruition. If you are willing to take serious heat and self publish---- you might make enough to pay a defense lawyers retainer.

you would be shocked and dismayed at the steps some of these jokers go to to protect their franchise--fraudulent or not.

the aggravations, threats and schemes make the idea practically non executible and a bad risk/reward profile.

regards,

surf
I would think that such cease-and-desist letters should save a lot of time on research. The only people who would feel threatened are the ones who have something to hide. Everyone else, from legitimate vendors to end users, would welcome the clarity and sunshine that a responsibly researched and properly presented exposé would bring.

Provided that the material is limited to a proper presentation of facts from which the reader can draw his own conclusions, I don't see how such content would be actionable. Further, I would think that opinions are allowed as long as they are not presented as fact, and are reasonably supported by the evidence. I think the time has come for someone to well and truly lift the rock and see what crawls beneath.
 
Quote from Trend Following:

I have been called worse than fungus. When I revealed, for example, that the youngest Turtle's firm had imploded and was banned by the CFTC, he referred to me as an "asshole", "idiot shyster", and "spiteful jealous liar". He threatened lawsuits everywhere including against ET.

You wouldn't have to deal with name-calling if you didn't resort to starting the use of it instead of addressing the issues at hand!!!!!!!
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

I would think that such cease-and-desist letters should save a lot of time on research. The only people who would feel threatened are the ones who have something to hide. Everyone else, from legitimate vendors to end users, would welcome the clarity and sunshine.


unfortunately, this isnt true. almost everyone of these clowns make claims, and or have something in their past that would bring embarassment---- OR they are convinced your doing a hit piece and will not cooperate. its a tough row to hoe BUT if you can take the heat-- --- would make good reading.

surf
 
Quote from TraderZones:

You wouldn't have to deal with name-calling if you didn't resort to starting the use of it instead of addressing the issues at hand!!!!!!

When you expose BS -- name calling starts. That's human nature. Look at you. You have never read my books or seen my film, but like the sheep in my film you heard "something" on ET and ran with it. Now you are so far into believing whatever you want to believe that the truth is no longer digestible for you. Trust me, I get that, but my goal is not to make crazies see the light. That said, I could be a nice guy and let you up, but I prefer to use you as an example.
 
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unfortunately, this isnt true. almost everyone of these clowns make claims, and or have something in their past that would bring embarassment---- OR they are convinced your doing a hit piece and will not cooperate. its a tough row to hoe BUT if you can take the heat-- --- would make good reading.

surf
They don't have to cooperate. You don't ask Al Capone if he's a mobster and if he would show you his gun. I imagine that the work would be difficult, but I agree that it would make for some good reading.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

unfortunately, this isnt true. almost everyone of these clowns make claims, and or have something in their past that would bring embarassment---- OR they are convinced your doing a hit piece and will not cooperate. its a tough row to hoe BUT if you can take the heat-- --- would make good reading.

surf

I think if the book was written, and not just a proposal to write, it would get published. As long as facts and sourcing are there, it would work. Collins attorneys wanted sourcing for my Turtle book for several items. Once they saw government documents they were fine.
 
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