Fidel Castro is dead

"... deceit was one of Fidel Castro’s greatest talents, and gullibility is one of the world’s greatest frailties... [his] so called revolution was not about creating a repressive totalitarian state and securing his rule as an absolute monarch, but rather about eliminating illiteracy, poverty, racism, class differences and every other ill known to humankind. This bold lie became believable, thanks largely to Castro’s incessant boasting about free schools and medical care, which made his myth of the benevolent utopian revolution irresistible to many of the world’s poor [and stupid, and gullible]..."

Gee whiz.... sounds very much like what the Lefties in the US are trying to achieve here, doesn't it?
 
They don't want the govt sucking up all the money and taking away their freedoms while those connected to the power live lavish and corrupt lifestyles.
In the case of the Cuban Revolution, the alignment was more or less typical.
"they" = "Labor" : "those connected to power" = "Capital"
 
In the case of the Cuban Revolution, the alignment was more or less typical.
"they" = "Labor" : "those connected to power" = "Capital"
Yeah, I was too young to remember the millions executed or drowned trying to escape under the Batista regime. That happened right?
 
So explain to us again how much illigel immigrants pay in federal taxes compared to the tax credits they receive.

Explain to us again how many billlions illegal immigrants draw in public benefits.

The number is much greater than the 11 Billion or so that illegal immigrants pay in sales taxes, etc.
Perhaps there is a lot of misplaced anger here. There doesn't seem to be equal concern that employers follow the law. One would think that the IRS would coordinate with the immigration people. Apparently not. To get tax credits I think you have to file a tax return? If chicken processors hire undocumented workers, how do they pay them (they make about $15/hour according to the web.) Is their pay reported on a W-2, or a 1099 perhaps?. Just wondering. Usually an employer wants to file either a W-2 or a 1099 so their ass is covered if they get audited. Naturally they want to deduct wages they pay as an operating expense. I imagine a raft of 1099s filed on undocumented workers using last known addresses would be quite a headache for the IRS.
 
Yeah, I was too young to remember the millions executed or drowned trying to escape under the Batista regime. That happened right?
Of course not, let's not be ridiculous. Batista's "crimes" were more in the nature of legal stealing, with U.S. blessings, and quietly, one assumes silencers were used, liquidating or locking up those who refused to look the other way. Castro's folks lined up and shot folks who opposed his revolution, as in any revolution; just as Washington lined up and ordered continental army soldiers to shoot their continental soldier friends who weren't behaving, or be shot themselves. Neither Washington, Batista nor Castro were cream puffs, though in the end Batista proved to be a coward. Revolutions make people do things they ordinarily wouldn't..

We are a eusocial species. We are happy to lay down our lives when our safe and sound leaders tell us it is for the good of the colony. The colony recognizes us as heroes rather than the fools we often were. When we don't follow the leader, we sometimes get shot, or worse!
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Let us not lose sight of the difference between most revolutions and organized State wars. In revolutions, their are often leaders who put their own lives in great peril in acts of unaccountable bravery. The nature of revolutions is that the oppressed are standing up against those who have both resources and power. This is typically a very dangerous situation for the leaders of the revolution. The Cuban revolution was not characteristic, however, because when the leader Batista recognized that the opposition was serious, he got on a plane and left. It was relatively speaking a bloodless revolution up to that point. Later, when the Castro government began to seize property of the Capital class, is when the real trouble started.
 
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Of course not, let's not be ridiculous. Batista's crimes were more in the nature of legal stealing, with U.S. blessings, and quietly, one assumes silencers were used, liquidating or locking up those who refused to look the other way. Castro's folks lined up and shot folks who opposed his revolution, as in any revolution; just as Washington lined up and ordered continental army soldiers to shoot their continental soldier friends who weren't behaving, or be shot themselves. Neither Washington, Batista nor Castro were cream puffs, though in the end Batista proved to be a coward. Revolutions make people do things they ordinarily wouldn't..

We are a eusocial species. We are happy to lay down our lives when our safe and sound leaders tell us it is for the good of the colony. The colony recognizes us as heroes rather than the fools we often were. When we don't follow the leader, we sometimes get shot, or worse!
Cuba, USA,Iraq,Finland, it doesn't matter,all the same...what is always needed are fair laws, equal justice and respect for ownership...especially land, and land belongs to whoever can steal it.
 
Cuba, USA,Iraq,Finland, it doesn't matter,all the same...what is always needed are fair laws, equal justice and respect for ownership...especially land, and land belongs to whoever can steal it.
Well I would agree, except for the non-sequitur. It is hard to see how "land belonging to whoever can steal it", which seems historically true, can be compatible with "fair laws, equal justice and respect for property." Clever lawyers can no doubt surmount this problem.
 
Well I would agree, except for the non-sequitur. It is hard to see how "land belonging to whoever can steal it", which seems historically true, can be compatible with "fair laws, equal justice and respect for property." Clever lawyers can no doubt surmount this problem.
We need a wall for the 50,000 lawyers who lost their life determining who owns Viet Nam.
 
Of course not, let's not be ridiculous. Batista's "crimes" were more in the nature of legal stealing, with U.S. blessings, and quietly, one assumes silencers were used, liquidating or locking up those who refused to look the other way. Castro's folks lined up and shot folks who opposed his revolution, as in any revolution; just as Washington lined up and ordered continental army soldiers to shoot their continental soldier friends who weren't behaving, or be shot themselves. Neither Washington, Batista nor Castro were cream puffs, though in the end Batista proved to be a coward. Revolutions make people do things they ordinarily wouldn't..

We are a eusocial species. We are happy to lay down our lives when our safe and sound leaders tell us it is for the good of the colony. The colony recognizes us as heroes rather than the fools we often were. When we don't follow the leader, we sometimes get shot, or worse!
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Let us not lose sight of the difference between most revolutions and organized State wars. In revolutions, their are often leaders who put their own lives in great peril in acts of unaccountable bravery. The nature of revolutions is that the oppressed are standing up against those who have both resources and power. This is typically a very dangerous situation for the leaders of the revolution. The Cuban revolution was not characteristic, however, because when the leader Batista recognized that the opposition was serious, he got on a plane and left. It was relatively speaking a bloodless revolution up to that point. Later, when the Castro government began to seize property of the Capital class, is when the real trouble started.
Re your focus of the moment, you might enjoy this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-debate-over-fidel-castro_us_583ba640e4b09b605601061d
 
Thank you very, very much. It is so easy for truth to be buried under financial interests, or bananas, as the case would have it. And once it is buried a new "truth" is invented and believed: The U.S. as the protector of human rights in Latin America. We are of course the most dangerous terrorist nation. So it is with a sense of irony that I observed Young George Bush "wanting to bring democracy to the good people of Iraq," while laying waste to the country to be the target of American style democracy on Halliburton's behalf.
 
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