fib. expansion and retrace in forex

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Shopster,

Thanks for the interesting thread. I am following it. It seems that you have been trading for a long time and probably for a big bank. Can you tell us something more about yourself - will be very interested to know. How much profits do you make per month on average ?

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GM,

i have traded for 36 years.

my purpose here is to enlighten those who wish to learn that the market is all math and that patterns and setups do indeed repeat.

there has been the usual " retail noise " along the way in some of the posts and some disenchantment from the rank and file.

those who follow the fundamental crap and try to make some sense from it.

those who need a crutch / trading buddies to lean on and jump from indicator to the next one, do not get it.

those who are lost and will never find it.....

hand holding and spoon feeding is not my function.

the grail is between your ears.

ice in your veins, zero ego and no pulse as you perfect the method , helps.

i have used this " edge " to trade since 1982 to extract from all markets.

sp500 , oex options , indexes and equities....

it is global in its reach and works across all time frames.

i sat for 5 days with George lane in his late 60's and learned from the inventor of stochastics.
he was the master of the Sp500 futures and taught me how to read pure price action.

" price is the game.........."

figure that out and you get the keys to the bank.

as far as ROI is concerned, " the boss " and her bank card cannot keep ahead of my trading.

i want for nothing and have no debt.

in my case.......
a trust fund, some vencap and a few business startups to help others was required to get me to master trading level.

those who have $ flowing in one direction only never arrive at the end result.

having said that.....
we do require a selection of " fresh meat daily " to take the other side.

not taking life too seriously and laughing at your trading mistakes is " de rigueur. "

flat screen time is " inversely proportional " to your bottom line.

automate the trade hunting process plus the exit door by using a good coder to get you there.

keep it simple, because all markets are not that bright....

then you have arrived.

cheers,

shop.
 

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Thanks Shopster for this interesting thread and for sharing your own story with us.
I'm very intrigued, but I'm struggling with the way some fibs are drawn. I include 3 random examples, in which I noticed that the 0% and 100% are not drawn at the exact highs or lows.
Slight changes have a enormous effect on the extensions...
Is this due to "sloppy habits" or "the hand of the master":p

Thanks and regards,
Onra
 

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drawing fibs needs to get you into the expansion number zones
nothing more.

do not dial it in too tight.

get close , that is all you need....

when you get to 4.2 or better the ssto and zero lag should start to roll.

i once caught the top tick of the year.
a 30 year T bond contract. i was now long , the market had other ideas........:)

my eyes and hands are not as sharp as they used to be

s
 
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S

I trust you, sorry about my Ichi thing, whilst it is quite robust, I respect your experience and apologise.


T,

no big deal.

add in fib expansion to your charts.

then you are back on the thread topic.

the cloud will never have a 4.2 or 5.7 exit door.

s
 
Did this post change the way any of you look at trading?

ES

P.S. Thanx shop...This is an ET Hall of Fame post...or maybe its just me...


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[.........the news has nothing to do with it.

it is an excuse to run price , jam up the retail traders, open the spread and blow those out running short on the edge of their margin.

" bank traders do not give a crap about the news. ........"

i repeat.........

" bank traders do not give a crap about the news. ........"

................................................................

their job is to take your money. ........period

they will run it down, blow the longs out, DB or DT the market , poke it out the bottom for the break out short traders, grab the pendings and get them short.

then run it up or down out of the zone so they are jammed.

this is called the reset.

you retail idiots hope they will take it down one more time to let you out.

if they have not collected enuf orders, they will ....

they run it down 27 more pips....right where you clowns put your stops.

they see all your pendings on their admin. platform .

if they still do not have enuf to go, they wait 30 min to 2 hours and will spike it one more time

to catch all the fresh meat in the last sideways period with pendings.


that is why 3 to a bottom or top works in trading.

after 3 trips down or up they need to move on with life.....

look at your charts . this goes on every flippin" day.

you also probably think your order is being matched up with some other guy in new jersey.

give your collective heads a shake after you pull them out of your butt.

i am an sp500 merc. member, retired.

you think your 1, 10 or 100 lot order moves the game.

it takes 5 to 10,00 lots to move forex and these guys own this game.

your job is to get in sync. and inside their heads.

they can only do 3 things and the IMF controls the max points per day banks can run a pair.

they are not allowed to ruin an economy.

hence the ADR number on the pairs.

get on the other side of your screen and start thinking like a market maker.

and tell the rest of the fools over in the live pip room to come over and read this post.

now you know.......

shop [/B]
 
In your trading rules it states "I trade to be on the winning side and to make a positive ROI on each and every trade". Period.

ES

Quote from shopster:

ED Seykota
the lad is a futures trader, but the same rules apply to all markets.....

" Win or lose, everybody gets what they want out of the market. Some people seem to like to lose, so they win by losing money......."

" It can be very expensive to try to convince the markets you are right......"

" Trend following is an exercise in observing and responding to the ever-present moment of now...."

" If you can't take a small loss, sooner or later you will take the mother of all losses......."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiE1VgWdcQM



my setups are based on the last two quotes.

s
 
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