Few notes on AMP Global

After you complete the setup, your bank would send two small funds to your AMP account, and you need to identify those two items to verify your bank transfer setup.
If you fail to complete the setup, then there must be errors in your setup process.
Thing is my PNC account will not allow me to setup AMP for a funds transfer much less actually send some test funds.
 
Ideally, you should only trade futures with large entities like, eTrade, Schwab etc. as your money is never as safe as with Vanguard, Fidelity etc..Sadly these large outfits NEVER give you a break on Micro contracts! These large outfits are always FCMs!

An FCM is better financed and more in control according to the US Futures regulatory authorities. The IB (Introducing Broker) usually sells you the platform ($1000, in the case of Ninjatrader) and uses FCMs for execution and clearing. In theory, there is no big difference as the IB has no access to your funds, usually, it manages the platform only. BUT, I found no advantage in paying $1000 for Ninjatrader. (I never paid off the balance only the first payment.)
The website should always note if the futures trader is FCM or not. I personally see no value using introducing brokers, but again I am on hiatus from futures trading anyway. Your funds with a futures broker are always more at risk than with an equity firm. Refco (a huge FCM) went broke and clients lost money, even so, there is(or supposed to be) some insurance of cash balances.
https://nypost.com/2006/04/24/refcos-ruins-clients-cant-get-back-from-broken-broker/

P.S. I was a futures broker at Refco for a short time, long before this happened and I would have never imagined they would go broke!
So is sierrafutures I mentioned above an IB or FcM? On their website it says they clear with Dorman. What do you think? It say funds are segregated.
 
So is sierrafutures I mentioned above an IB or FcM? On their website it says they clear with Dorman. What do you think? It say funds are segregated.

I never heard of Sierrafutures before, but it seems like it is a division from Stage 5 and Stage 5 is an IB.

The IB does not hold your funds, the funds are with the FCM that the IB clears through depending on your needs and it looks like Stage 5 either clears through Gain, Dorman or Iron Beam.
 
I never heard of Sierrafutures before, but it seems like it is a division from Stage 5 and Stage 5 is an IB.

The IB does not hold your funds, the funds are with the FCM that the IB clears through.
So does that make the funds safe? I wonder why timtheenchanter warned about using an IB?
 
Hello all....current questions is about the ACH deposits process at AMP.

Thank you @Overnight for providing initial response.

Here is additional details;

1) Correct, AMP does not have an agreement or access to your bank account to initiate funds withdraws from your bank account. There are services out there that other firms are using like "Plaid" but after researching, we found that the amount of Customer Information that would be available to us...was TOO MUCH for our comfort, so we did not move forward with enabling this service.

2) We have many customers funding via ACH everyday, so this is available and works. This funds transfer type is something that is either available at your bank or not. For example, bank of america accounts gives you the option to select same day wire for $25 fee or ACH 3- day transfer for $10 or free depending on your account member status.

From what you are saying, PNC bank seems not to make this funds transfer option available.

3) Yes, if you need to send test deposits, we get these all the time...we will post the test deposits to your AMP account (even the test pennies....the bank sends).

ACH deposits and withdrawals are highly used by our customers. Which is cool...we like saving our customers $$$. We will continue to search and add any acceptable banking options that will save our customers on banking fees. If any new services come online, we will send out notice to all customers.
 
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Their support is extremely rude and arrogant, especially AMP USA. AMP EU are rude, but still able to carry discussion. AMP USA are just too arrogant for their own sake, e.g specifically the guy "Victor" who's responsible for funds.

Same experience with the same guy.

V: The funds will be returned – no fee.
Me: Today I received 15€ less than I initially transferred to AMP.
V: Return fee of 15

great sense of humor! Further mails to him and to the "customer satisfaction team" were ignored.
 
Hello all....current questions is about the ACH deposits process at AMP.

Thank you @Overnight for providing initial response.

Here is additional details;

1) Correct, AMP does not have an agreement or access to your bank account to initiate funds withdraws from your bank account. There are services out there that other firms are using like "Plaid" but after researching, we found that the amount of Customer Information that would be available to us...was TOO MUCH for our comfort, so we did not move forward with enabling this service.

2) We have many customers funding via ACH everyday, so this is available and works. This funds transfer type is something that is either available at your bank or not. For example, bank of america accounts gives you the option to select same day wire for $25 fee or ACH 3- day transfer for $10 or free depending on your account member status.

From what you are saying, PNC bank seems not to make this funds transfer option available.

3) Yes, if you need to send test deposits, we get these all the time...we will post the test deposits to your AMP account (even the test pennies....the bank sends).

ACH deposits and withdrawals are highly used by our customers. Which is cool...we like saving our customers $$$. We will continue to search and add any acceptable banking options that will save our customers on banking fees. If any new services come online, we will send out notice to all customers.
Then please tell us a list of banks that will do what you say. That would be nice. I have yet to find one that will push an ach initiated by a bank customer out from their personal account to AMP as a business. Since you claim to have many customers that do this and you get test deposits all the time you should be aware of the “many” banks that will do this. you should be able to at least tell us what banks your requirements will work with. I have not found “ a single bank. I am not near a Bank of America.
 
So what are the pros and cons of Using and IB as opposed to an FCM. Can anyone on ET tell me? I will watch the video posted...least some of it.
 
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