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[Tsing Tao]

Yes, let's put up unknown stats to support your "guess"!

Lmao.

Try not to be your usual asshat self, just for a day.

It's not unknown how many crimes where the victim is black or white are unsolved. My guess, and I don't have the data to show right now, is that in crimes where the victim is black go unsolved a lot more than when the victim is white. This would take the total numbers of crimes that you've pulled off the FBI's website from 2011 up quite a bit. I'd be happy to see if I can find those if you dispute that this is probably the case.

If we know, just for example, that 40% of crimes where the victim is black remain unsolved, and 15% of the crimes where the victim is white are unsolved, then we can extrapolate using the percentages of crimes black/black, white/black or black/white accordingly. It sure would change the picture from the convenient #'s you reported.

For example, this site shows Washington DC. and Illinois ranking at the top of unsolved homicides. Well, we don't have to be a scientist to take a gander and what race those stats primarily represent.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Here is another.

“Police solved only 35 percent of the murders in Chicago in 2008, 22 percent in New Orleans and just 21 percent in Detroit. Yet authorities solved 75 percent of the killings that same year in Philadelphia, 92 percent in Denver and 94 percent in San Diego.

This would indicate the numbers the FBI has on murders (black on black) is vastly under reported.

 

[Ricter]

Here is another.



This would indicate the numbers the FBI has on murders (black on black) is vastly under reported.

As well there would be under-reporting of "white" on "white" homicide.

At the end of the day, all you're going to show at best is that there is more crime amongst our underclass, a fact that is true of every society.

 

[PiggyBank]

2011 "black" on "black" homicide: 2,447
2011 "black" on "white" homicide: 448
2011 "white" on "white" homicide: 2,630
2011 "white" on "black" homicide: 193

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6

1) it seems pretty obvious that whites will commit more murders during a given time period than blacks because there are way more of us. blacks make up 12.6% of the US pop, 'whites' around 72.5%. nearly 6x's the amount of people and nearly the same # of murders. LOL

2) The murders for 'other' races on the FBI table is incredibly low and I will make a guess here that the fbi is including hispanics in the white figures, which they shouldn't.

3) There is still more black on white violence than white on black, even though we outnumber them almost 6-1.

basically, if you posted this to make a point that American whites are just as violent as American blacks.. the data you posted refutes it.

 

[Ricter]

1) it seems pretty obvious that whites will commit more murders during a given time period than blacks because there are way more of us. blacks make up 12.6% of the US pop, 'whites' around 72.5%. nearly 6x's the amount of people and nearly the same # of murders. LOL

2) The murders for 'other' races on the FBI table is incredibly low and I will make a guess here that the fbi is including hispanics in the white figures, which they shouldn't.

3) There is still more black on white violence than white on black, even though we outnumber them almost 6-1.

basically, if you posted this to make a point that American whites are just as violent as American blacks.. the data you posted refutes it.

Not my point at all. Some 85% of violent crime against "blacks" is committed by other "blacks". Same for "whites". How can that be? Crime is segregated, just like the races. It is unremarkable that the more privileged classes commit less violent crime (and more "white collar" crime) than the less privileged classes.

 

[Tsing Tao]

As well there would be under-reporting of "white" on "white" homicide.

At the end of the day, all you're going to show at best is that there is more crime amongst our underclass, a fact that is true of every society.

There is under reporting on all crimes. But if the statistics show that most crime where the victim is black happens to be from a black assailant, then the under reported crimes against black are predominantly caused by blacks. You can extrapolate.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Not my point at all. Some 85% of violent crime against "blacks" is committed by other "blacks". Same for "whites". How can that be?

I would guess that this is because folks tend to group (live, work, play, associate) with their own race. It's not surprising.

 

[CaptainObvious]

There will be little progress with black/black crime and with the violent nature of the inner city blacks until the left stops trying to excuse it. The left needs to figure out that making excuses for these people is not helpful, as evidenced by things being worse in 2014 than they were in 1960 far as black/black crime goes. 50 years ago there was far more discrimination, far less opportunity in jobs and education, yet blacks were able to maintain a family structure. What happened? How is it possible after all this educational reform, all this affirmative action, all this "help" in every area imaginable and we see a complete breakdown in the family structure? A complete breakdown in the community at large. A complete breakdown in how they pursue opportunities in education and employment. Why is it that they see education as a bad thing? A job for "da man" as a bad thing? Why are black kids/people trying to better themselves considered sellouts? It's painfully obvious something has gone terribly wrong.

 

[fhl]

 

[Tsing Tao]

This is total bullshit. If it were true, then companies like Air America would still be in business. Piers Morgan would have a show. MSNBC, CNN, etc - horrible ratings, and they continue to direct their narrative. They don't care about what sells - they care about preaching their narrative, and figure that if they just continue to do it the people will "come 'round".

Fox News Hits Ratings Highs, MSNBC Sputters in Busy Week

A busy week in news was a good one for Fox News Channel, which logged its second highest-rated frame of the year, but a weak one for MSNBC, which found itself deep in third place.

FNC, with several shows hitting 2014 highs, won in adults 25-54 and total viewers on both a primetime and total-day basis for Monday through Friday of last week. Tune-in was above average across the news board due to coverage of the protests in Ferguson and the murder of James Foley.

Looking at the Nielsen numbers, Fox News averaged 443,000 adults 25-54 in primetime to finish ahead of CNN (361,000) in the key news demo, with both networks more than doubling the tally of MSNBC (179,000). CNN had narrowly won in the demo on Monday and Tuesday, before Fox News asserted itself Wednesday through Friday.

In total-day numbers, FNC averaged 272,000, to 241,000 for CNN and just 106,000 for MSNBC.

The only week to rate higher for Fox News this year was the State of the Union frame in January.

As usual, it was no contest in total viewers, with Fox News (2.25 million in primetime, 1.26 million total-day) beating the combined tune-in of CNN (901,000 in primetime, 690,000 in total-day) and MSNBC (737,000 in primetime, 402,000 in total-day).

Among the highlights for Fox News was “The Kelly File” drawing its largest weekly demo audience of the calendar year (455,000), while “Hannity” had its most-watched week of the year (1.84 million) and its highest-rated demo performance to date in the 10 o’clock hour (421,000). Daytime shows “Outnumbered” and “Happening Now” also hit some 2014 highs.