Federal Study Shows Illegals are More likely to be Criminals

[exGOPer]

Here is the actual federal report...

Alien Incarceration Report
Fiscal Year 2017, Quarter 4
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Alien_Incarceration_Report_OIS_FY17_Q4_2.pdf

Great, please provide a study on who gets more abortions, men or women.

 

[gwb-trading]

Great, please provide a study on who gets more abortions, men or women.

You and others want source data on illegal immigrants in federal prison, I provided the source data. People can parse it and come to their own conclusions.

 

[exGOPer]

You and others want source data on illegal immigrants in federal prison, I provided the source data. People can parse it and come to their own conclusions.

How many times do I have to explain that this isn't about data, this is about torturing data to reach conclusions that the anti-immigrant racist Conservatives love.

 

[gwb-trading]

How many times do I have to explain that this isn't about data, this is about torturing data to reach conclusions that the anti-immigrant racist Conservatives love.

I provided the report with the raw data.... go figure it out on your own -- rather than reading articles. This is a federal report that is released every quarter for many years now.

Or for full data you can read the entire yearly report -- here is the one from 2011 under the Obama administration...

CRIMINAL ALIENSTATISTICS
Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs
https://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11187.pdf

 

[exGOPer]

I provided the report with the raw data.... go figure it out on your own -- rather than reading articles. This is a federal report that is released every quarter for many years now.

Or for full data you can read the entire yearly report -- here is the one from 2011 under the Obama administration...

CRIMINAL ALIENSTATISTICS
Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs
https://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11187.pdf

I already figured it out, now I am pointing out how absurd the conclusions reached by Ingraham's racist blog 'lifezette'. I have written two papers on data analysis in python, I don't need to be told how to analyze data.

 

[jem]

Stoneridge is closed. The owner/developer wanted to develop it. However, it was zoned open space when he bought it. He paid for a referendum to change the zoning. He was voted down 63 percent to 38 percent.

The layout was not bad it was just poorly maintained. If the owner was employing illegals (and I don't know that he was) attempting to bulldoze and turn it into homes did not work. Everybody told the guy Poway would not vote to change the zoning. Poway voted down previous measures to change zoning on other properties.

If it wasn't for illegals that Stoneridge you call a country club would be a goat hill.. should have been bulldozed years ago.. waste of prime R.E. Time for you to wise up.

 

[jem]

and again... we still do not know they were convicted of soley immigration offenses and we don't know that it was not after already being deported multiple times and violating court orders. Finally, we don't know how many of those offenses were connected to other crimes and they somehow arranged a deal after turning in a smuggler.

In short.. if anything 7.3 percent is a low number which therefore does not help the illegal immigration advocates at all.

Here is information from CATO on the subject...

New Report on Illegal Immigrant Criminality Reveals Little & Admits Its Own Shortcomings
By Alex Nowrasteh
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-repor...ty-reveals-little-admits-its-own-shortcomings

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) today released a report that found that about 94 percent of foreign-born inmates in Federal prisons are illegal immigrants. That is not surprising, as illegal immigrants convicted of an immigration offense are incarcerated in federal prison and account 7.3 percent of all inmates. Likewise, drug traffickers who cross international borders are also in federal prison and account 46.3 percent of all prisoners. Thus, illegal immigrants are overrepresented in federal prison because the federal government enforces immigration laws and many drug trafficking laws but only a small fraction of all those incarcerated for all crimes committed in the U.S. are in federal prisons.

The authors of this DHS/DOJ report do deserve credit for highlighting its shortcomings. On the first page, it states:

This report does not include data on the foreign-born or alien populations in state prisons and local jails because state and local facilities do not routinely provide DHS or DOJ with comprehensive information about their inmates and detainees. This limitation is noteworthy because state and local facilities account for approximately 90 percent of the total U.S. incarcerated population.

The federal prison population is not representative of incarcerated populations on the state and local level, so excluding them from the report means that it sheds little light on nationwide incarcerations by nativity, legal status, or type of crime. On the last point, it is shocking how unrepresentative federal prison is regarding the types of crimes its inmates are convicted of. In 2016, 67,742 people were sentenced to federal prison. Almost 30 percent of them were for immigration offenses. Those immigration convictions comprised 100 percent of the convictions for immigration crimes in the United States in 2016. By contrast, there were only 85 federal convictions for murder out of a nationwide total of 17,785 murder convictions that year, comprising less than 0.5 percent of all murders.

If Garcia Zarate had actually been convicted of murdering Kate Steinle, then he would have been incarcerated in California state prison and he would not show up as an illegal immigrant murderer in this DHS/DOJ report. What good is a federal report on illegal immigrant incarceration rates if it would have excluded Kate Steinle’s killer had he been convicted?

(More at above url)

 

[jem]

wrong

Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Infowars, etc. ? Jem, these folks are all talking nonsense. But they are masters at making whatever they are saying sound legit. We have to question everything that does not seem reasonable. Is it reasonable that 20% of the prisoners for crimes other than immigration violations are illegal immigrants? No, of course not.

 

[gwb-trading]

and again... we still do not know they were convicted of soley immigration offenses and we don't know that it was not after already being deported multiple times and violating court orders. Finally, we don't know how many of those offenses were connected to other crimes and they somehow arranged a deal after turning in a smuggler.

In short.. if anything 7.3 percent is a low number which therefore does not help the illegal immigration advocates at all.

The report states very directly that immigration offenses are excluded.

Actually -- seeing that illegal immigrants represent approx 3.5% of the U.S. population and the percent of criminals locked up in federal prison for non-immigration offenses is 7.3% -- this represents a very strong argument for stronger enforcement against illegal immigration.

The argument even gets stronger for proper enforcement when you include illegal immigrants locked up for non-immigration crime in state prisons where they represent over 9% of the state prison population in most states.

 

[jem]

wow... well done.

The report states very directly that immigration offenses are excluded.

Actually -- seeing that illegal immigrants represent approx 3.5% of the U.S. population and the percent of criminals locked up in federal prison for non-immigration offenses is 7.3% -- this represents a very strong argument for stronger enforcement against illegal immigration.

The argument even gets stronger for proper enforcement when you include illegal immigrants locked up for non-immigration crime in state prisons where they represent over 9% of the state prison population in most states.