Federal Reserve: fact or conspiracy?

Quote from pairsarbtooo:

Currency is necessary. The problems are when the government turns to another entity (the Federal Reserve or any central bank) to borrow the currency.

You understand the system perfectly, shame you have few posts from the time you joined.

I say get involved more, we have a lot shills for the other side.
 
Quote from pairsarbtooo:
Currency is necessary. The problems are when the government turns to another entity (the Federal Reserve or any central bank) to borrow the currency.

No. You are placing everything into the giant "government" box: military, administration, policy, planning, benefits, entitlements, governance, laws, and currency and economic management into the "government" box.

It needs to be distributed. Competition in banks is necessary.

Please read Promise Language. It breaks apart the constituent parts of "money" and provides the solution. The solution is simple and viable and doable. Today.
 
Quote from rselitetrader:

According to this site, the Fed is good:

http://hidhist.wordpress.com/bankst...onspiracy-theories-and-other-financial-myths/

But according to Bill Still in Money Masters, the Fed and the World Bank for the New World Order are the ultimate evils that seek to enslave all mankind through debt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHwg7xhueQ

I would like your input. Thanks.

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I will quote the first link here: (Please note that I have searched the website of College of Charleston, and there was no Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. in the Department of Economics; there was department of business, not department of economics in the college of charleston.)

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Debunking the Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theories (and other financial myths)

BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston, S.C.

Facts: Yes, the Federal Reserve banks are privately owned, but they are controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors. The Federal Reserve banks merely execute the monetary policy choices made by the Board. In addition, nearly all the interest the Federal Reserve collects on government bonds is rebated to the Treasury each year, so the government does not pay any net interest to the Fed.

Facts: No foreigners own any part of the Fed. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned exclusively by the participating commercial banks and S&Ls operating within the Federal Reserve bank’s district. Individuals and non-bank firms, be they foreign or domestic, are not permitted by law to own any shares of a Federal Reserve bank. Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.

Fact: Independent accounting firms conduct full financial audits of the Federal Reserve banks and the Board of Governors every year. The Fed is also subject to certain types of audits from the Government Accounting Office.

Facts: The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury. The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain.

Facts: The Federal Reserve banks have only a small share of the total national debt (about 7%). Therefore, only a small share of the interest on the debt goes to the Fed. Regardless, the Fed rebates that interest to the Treasury every year, so the debt held by the Fed carries no net interest obligation for the government. In addition, it is Congress, not the Federal Reserve, who is responsible for the federal budget and the national debt.

Facts: Kennedy wrote E.O. 11,110 to phase out silver certificate currency, not to issue more of it. Records show Kennedy and the Federal Reserve were almost always in agreement on policy matters. He even signed legislation to give the Fed more authority to issue currency.

Facts: McFadden was incorrect regarding the Fed costing the government money. However, later economic analysis agrees with him that Federal Reserve policy blunders had a substantial role in causing the Depression. However, his implication that this was done deliberately has no basis in fact. Moreover, for a dozen years prior to his rant, McFadden had been the chairman of the House subcommittee that oversaw the Federal Reserve. Why didn’t he do anything to reform or abolish the Fed while he had the chance?

Facts: The banking system is indeed able to create money with a mere computer keystroke. However, a bank’s ability to create money is tied directly to the amount of reserves customers have deposited there. A bank must pay a competitive interest rate on those deposits to keep them from leaving to other banks. This interest expense alone is a substantial portion of a bank’s operating costs and is de facto proof a bank cannot costlessly create money.

Fact: The term ‘lawful money’ does not refer to gold or silver coin, but to types of money which the government would permit banks to use when tabulating their reserves. These types of money included, but were not limited to, gold and silver coin.

BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston, S.C.
The first fact may be technically wrong. I believe even the Branch banks are technically owned by the Fed, but the member banks are required to buy stock which pays , the last time i looked, a 6% dividend. However the stock, unlike stock in publicly held corporations, imparts no ownership rights. Private, Reserve Member Banks do have officers serving on the boards of the Branch banks. Some have expressed the opinion that this creates a conflict of interest. For other than conspiracy theorists, the best source of information about the structure of the Federal Reserve is Federal Reserve.gov , note that it is dot gov, not dot com. I don't think there is any doubt about the Mother Bank being lock, stock, and barrel U.S. government issue. The Federal Reserve is fully a creature of Congress and works hand and glove with the Treasury. The intention was to isolate it from political tampering. There is abundant, circumstantial evidence that that intention has not been fully realized.
 
I wanted to comment on a related issue. We have heard the Fed's creation of new money via the QE programs referred to as "printing". In a formal hearing Bernanke was asked indirectly if he was "printing" money. He said :"We are not printing", and he left it at that. I think confusion arises because technically to most economists "printing" means just that, i.e. creating money out of thin air and using it to pay on debt. (Exactly what Zimbabwe did!) However the U.S. is not "printing" in that sense. Each new dollar created via QE is attached to new debt. So in effect the U.S. is borrowing, not printing. I think now, Bernanke's answer was correct, though I was puzzled by it at the time.

I still hear the term "printing" used. I heard it yesterday morning on NPR. I think it is, in most cases, from the economists viewpoint, being used incorrectly.
 
Once upon a time the Treasury had gold (and other real assets). When the Fed was created, the Treasury used their assets as collateral to borrow money from the Fed. The Fed looked at the income and expenses of the Treasury and Congress and government and lent them money in defined increments.

To maintain cashflow, the Fed sold the bonds to the public or institutions. So the Fed was a trading house and made a market on both the bid and the ask. Their inventory came from the Treasury.

Economists and analysts were hired to predict the economy so as to make sound lending decisions. Their only customer to lend to was the Treasury.

Since then, the Treasury lost their collateral, and the Fed kept on lending. The Fed then looked at the future income based on tax revenue and lent them money based on that.

Nowadays, the debt ceiling is the maximum amount Congress allows the Treasury to sell (or the Fed to buy). That should probably be called the yearly inflation amount rather than the debt ceiling.

It is no longer "once upon a time". Today, the Fed conveys nothing but a funny check to the Treasury. Consumers call that "check kiting". Because they are the Fed, no one catches them and they use open market operations to hide the fact that the Fed is creating money to the total amount of the debt ceiling.

So, taxes must make both the interest and principal payments. This has turned it into a slavery system.

The Fed broke their promise. If they were still running their business, they would have stopped lending a long time ago. But. Now they have buyers in the form of the public and institutions who purchase the bonds and create derivatives using them as collateral. Everyone is betting on the future tax revenue. And the fact that the Congress keeps raising the debt ceiling.


The Fed has a fraudulent journal entry. For those who remember accounting, what is the offsetting asset or liability that the Fed credits when they accept the bond asset on their books. Note, if you say cash, is that cash from open market operations?
 
Thank you Hello for your insight. I will go back and read your longer posts when I get a spare moment. Too tired right now to think clearly.
 
Quote from trade2live:

central banks are still doing evil things either by design or incompetence.

Oh no, central banks (these evil corporations) know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Quote from trade2live:Central banks are part of the government, and government always does evil things.

The FED is NOT part of the government, it's a private bank, period, just like FEDERAL EXPRESS is a private company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe0fGXzKb1o
 
Quote from xelite777:

Oh no, central banks (these evil corporations) know EXACTLY what they are doing.




Then why do they do it? To make 'muricans suffer?
 
Quote from ammo:


but the tides have changed from men were men , morals and scruples still garnered respect, to money's king and those that don't see that will soon be relieved of it

end result those with the least morals and most greed made out to be the present day kings and the govt agencies bow to them...no graft, no deals

+1
 
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