Federal Judge Rules Affordable Care Act Is Unconstitutional after the GOP made it so.

piezoe said:
It is going to be a very interesting case to follow. I haven't had time to study the Judges argument yet, but the brief summary I heard on the radio seems to make sense. I think I would have ruled the same way were I the judge. This will either turn out to be a brilliant strategy by the Republicans or come back to haunt them once their tactics are fully exposed. As I understand it, eliminating the penalty (tax) for not having insurance made the ACA unconstitutional. Only time will tell whether they get away with it. Politically I don't think it was a good move unless the perpetrator's strategy can somehow go undetected. It seems the press ("The enemy of the people") will not let them go unexposed. These misanthropes may have inadvertently handed the democrats valuable additional fodder for the 2020 election campaign.

Will "the final solution" be medicare for all? Will this turn out to be a step in that direction?

The Nazis used "the Final Solution" as their way of referring to annihilation of the Jewish population. Now it would seem, in our American politics, the Republicans saw getting the ACA declared unconstitutional as the "final solution", whereas the real "final solution," and the "solution" they hate most, medicare for all, may have been given a giant shot in the arm by their actions. How ironic that could be !!!
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I will reject your absurd pulling of the Nazi “Final Solution” into this discussion. Otherwise you made some good points.
 
gwb-trading said:
I will reject your absurd pulling of the Nazi “Final Solution” into this discussion. Otherwise you made some good points.
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Oh, no. That was my my best line. I'm crushed! It seemed an appropriate parallel at the time. The Nazis wanted to get rid of Jews and did everything they could to make their lives miserable, but they couldn't get rid of them until one day some bright Nazi came up with the "final solution". And so it was with the ACA. The Republicans have been trying to get rid of it since the day it passed. They damaged it here; they damaged it there. Bang, bang! But somehow, badly wounded as it was, it managed to live on. Then some bright republican came up with the "final solution". Get it declared unconstitutional by making it unconstitutional!
 
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OBAMA RESPONDS TO OBAMACARE RULING, DECRIES REPUBLICANS TRYING TO OVERTURN LAW IN COURTS
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https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/15/obama-responds-obamacare-ruling/
 
piezoe said:
Oh, no. That was my my best line. I'm crushed! It seemed an appropriate parallel at the time. The Nazis wanted to get rid of Jews and did everything they could to make their lives miserable, but they couldn't get rid of them until one day some bright Nazi came up with the "final solution". And so it was with the ACA. The Republicans have been trying to get rid of it since the day it passed. They damaged it here; they damaged it there. Bang, bang! But somehow, badly wounded as it was, it managed to live on. Then some bright republican came up with the "final solution". Get it declared unconstitutional by making it unconstitutional!
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You know who had free healthcare? Nazi's under Hitler.
 
Wallet said:
Going back in time for a review on how we got here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ilyash...ented-is-still-unconstitutional/#6d102dcc22b7

The Obamacare "Tax" That Chief Justice Roberts Invented Is Still Unconstitutional


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonath...at-obama-swore-it-was-not-a-tax/#27133c461214

Roberts Calls Mandate What Obama Swore It Was Not -- A Tax
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You're giving the same weight of a Chief Justice (GWB appointee) to the opinion of pundits in a business magazine?
 
Here4money said:
You're giving the same weight of a Chief Justice (GWB appointee) to the opinion of pundits in a business magazine?
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The fact of the matter is the ACA is unconstitutional. Specially when it's stripped of its mandates.

The question is where do we go from here. Do we continue to allow the Medical and Insurance industries to write the laws or do we finally write legislation that's for the people. The ACA as it stands now is a price of crap, way too expensive and complicated for those whose backs burden the price for everyone.

At this rate Id rather have expansion of Medicare to everyone, although it would benefit me it will further bankrupt our country.

Open the states, get rid of localized insurance monopolies to start. I'm open for suggestions but what we have now has to go.
 
Wallet said:
The fact of the matter is the ACA is unconstitutional. Specially when it's stripped of its mandates.

The question is where do we go from here. Do we continue to allow the Medical and Insurance industries to write the laws or do we finally write legislation that's for the people. The ACA as it stands now is a price of crap, way too expensive and complicated for those whose backs burden the price for everyone.

At this rate Id rather have expansion of Medicare to everyone, although it would benefit me it will further bankrupt our country.

Open the states, get rid of localized insurance monopolies to start. I'm open for suggestions but what we have now has to go.
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This is yours and the republicans problem, what does health insurance legislation that’s for the people look like?
 
Wallet said:
The fact of the matter is the ACA is unconstitutional. Specially when it's stripped of its mandates.
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That's the whole premise of this thread. That the GOP stripped the mandate knowing it would make the law unconstitutional.
 
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