Fed Monetizes 1 Trillion in MBS and Treasuries for 2013

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Why must it be all in or nothing? Can't there be middle ground?

Stop QE. Pass a balanced budget amendment, which includes massive tax reform. Put in a national sales tax (fair tax) instead of current stupidity. Put in incentives on corporate taxes for every job that is kept in the United States. Insist that if companies want to sell their products here, they have to have a certain number of jobs here dependent on industry.

End lobbying. Put in term limits. Make serving in congress similar to jury duty. You get called up, serve, and at the end of your term you get your old job back. During the service, you make very little, have all of your expenses paid and get free housing in DC.

I digress.

The one thing you don't want is a balanced budget amendment. Think about the consequences and where we would be today if we'd have had a balanced budget amendment in 2008! In a perfect world with perfect people, a balanced budget amendment would be a great idea. But this is not a perfect world with perfect people. Fix government first. Then there will be time enough to consider a balanced budget amendment.
 
Quote from piezoe:

It is the Fed's job to keep the Genie at least partway in the bottle. The U.S. will not become Argentina, nor Greece, nor Spain, nor Italy, not Portugal, nor Ireland -- not for the foreseeable future anyway. So sleep well, and don't bother yourself with extremely low probability events. If you are going to worry about something, let it be something with a finite probability, such as the probability that you'll be struck and killed by a box of lawn furniture falling from the top shelf at Costco.:D

"The U.S. will not become Argentina, nor Greece, nor Spain, nor Italy, not Portugal, nor Ireland -- not for the foreseeable future anyway. "
that is not true. the US is made up of 50 Greeces know as states.
exact timing is unknowable but your refusal, to recognize this fact , previously mentioned,does not speak well for your sense of realism. of course california as usual is in the forefront. once the states start lining up for bailouts to pay the gov't sector the dollar will collapse just like the Argentinian peso. even now the dollar is a weak currency in spite of the fact that the euro is a garbage currency.
 
Precisely. Illinois is in worse shape than California. Teachers, Fireman, Policrman, etc get a pension well over 100k per year when they retire. In comparison my Dad's pension is 25k per year + 25k social security + whatever he's required to withdraw from his IRAs. That's a reasonable pension. 100k to retire is pure insanity. Pensions and Medicare are going break the state that's already 16B in debt. Unfortunately, Illinois can't print money.

Quote from zdreg:

"The U.S. will not become Argentina, nor Greece, nor Spain, nor Italy, not Portugal, nor Ireland -- not for the foreseeable future anyway. "
that is not true. the US is made up of 50 Greeces know as states.
exact timing is unknowable but your refusal, to recognize this fact , previously mentioned,does not speak well for your sense of realism. of course california as usual is in the forefront. once the states start lining up for bailouts to pay the gov't sector the dollar will collapse just like the Argentinian peso. even now the dollar is a weak currency in spite of the fact that the euro is a garbage currency.
 
Quote from HopelessTrader:

just for the sake of economic talk.. I was looking to engage conversation.

Isn't that the same thing as his second option.. except you added in some extra things..He said end all QE. you said that. end all bail outs and deficits. . you said that in the "balanced budget amendment"..

will you please elaborate on "Insist that if companies want to sell their products here, they have to have a certain number of jobs here dependent on industry"..

Just that I think we have the largest consumer base in the world (spending $$ total) and we need to charge entry in order for those consumers to be on the list of some companies. We need to say "You can play in this market, but you need to have some employees here - you can't send them off to some place cheaper."
 
Quote from the1:

Interesting thoughts, with the exception of the Jury Duty analogy, but it's nothing more than a dream.

The Gov't wont spend within their means, the tax code is going to get more complicated, lobbying will continue, and jobs will keep heading to Chindia. You're forgetting who runs the country. It's not the President, nor Congress. It's the corporations. We don't live in a Capitalism society. We live in a Corporatism society.

http://www.chicagonow.com/make-no-l...talism-what-the-difference-means-for-chicago/

Yeah, I know. But I can dream.
 
Quote from piezoe:

The one thing you don't want is a balanced budget amendment. Think about the consequences and where we would be today if we'd have had a balanced budget amendment in 2008! In a perfect world with perfect people, a balanced budget amendment would be a great idea. But this is not a perfect world with perfect people. Fix government first. Then there will be time enough to consider a balanced budget amendment.

I would have been fine with no bailouts.
 
Quote from the1:

Precisely. Illinois is in worse shape than California. Teachers, Fireman, Policrman, etc get a pension well over 100k per year when they retire. In comparison my Dad's pension is 25k per year + 25k social security + whatever he's required to withdraw from his IRAs. That's a reasonable pension. 100k to retire is pure insanity. Pensions and Medicare are going break the state that's already 16B in debt. Unfortunately, Illinois can't print money.

' Unfortunately, Illinois can't print money."

perhaps you meant fortunately.
 
Quote from piezoe:

The one thing you don't want is a balanced budget amendment. Think about the consequences and where we would be today if we'd have had a balanced budget amendment in 2008! In a perfect world with perfect people, a balanced budget amendment would be a great idea. But this is not a perfect world with perfect people. Fix government first. Then there will be time enough to consider a balanced budget amendment.

"Fix government first."

that is liking having the fox guard the chicken coop.
what a joke. you are for big well paid government.
1st you have a balanced budget amendment balance on the back of government workers. everything will the work out.
 
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