FEAR! How to get rid of it

Quote from kut2k2:

Fear is a consequence of uncertainty. Uncertainty is the result of not trusting your trading system. Not trusting your trading system is the result of not having adequately proven your trading system through extensive backtesting. Not having adequately proven your trading system though extensive backtesting is the result of laziness or an emotional rush to trade without full preparation. Stop being lazy or rushing to trade without full preparation. The fear will go away.

One of the best posts.

Sometimes the fear has nothing to do with trading, fear of success. So many people are use to working for others that if they succeed at trading, it is then all on themseleves to make money.
 
all crap about backtesting again... instead of countless backtests try following J.Simon's rule - ' WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND' .. that's what you build your success upon - understanding..if you don't understand you don't trade.. AMEN..
 
Quote from vinc:

all crap about backtesting again... instead of countless backtests try following J.Simon's rule - ' WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND' .. that's what you build your success upon - understanding..if you don't understand you don't trade.. AMEN..

How do you think J.Simons understood it??
 
Quote from vinc:

all crap about backtesting again... instead of countless backtests try following J.Simon's rule - ' WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND' .. that's what you build your success upon - understanding..if you don't understand you don't trade.. AMEN..
What makes you assume I don't understand what I backtest? And I'm sure I'm not the only trader who understands what he backtests.
Quote from ocean5:

How do you think J.Simons understood it??
Exactly.
 
Quote from fxgator:

I think it is normal for all people to have fears. I believe that a person that has never experienced this feeling is not normal. But it really hurts when fear is starting to get all over us and hinders us to do the things we wanted to do. In forex, I'm sure that all we are have fears of loosing money at first. So during your early days in forex, how were you able to get rid of the fear of loosing money?

If you fear losing money you are trading too big.. You should be trading a size where you feel comfortable and can think objectively. When you trade scared, the bots will sniff you out and come after you. It's uncanny. They can smell blood.
 
Quote from kut2k2:

Fear is a consequence of uncertainty. Uncertainty is the result of not trusting your trading system. Not trusting your trading system is the result of not having adequately proven your trading system through extensive backtesting. Not having adequately proven your trading system though extensive backtesting is the result of laziness or an emotional rush to trade without full preparation. Stop being lazy or rushing to trade without full preparation. The fear will go away.

+1

if I can add to that ... markets are inherently uncertain, as a result you cannot predict the outcome of the current trade - never. Once you are 100% convinced of this, the next step is to understand that if you have an edge (a trading method with a positive expectancy), and money management rules going with it (that is, your per-trade $$$ at risk is small enough that your risk of ruin - the risk of blowing your account in a "normal" drawdown - remains small), by taking a "large enough" number of trades you'll end-up making money - and this is really what counts, making money over the long-haul, and *not* the outcome the current trade (or of the last few trades).
 
Quote from kut2k2:

Fear is a consequence of uncertainty. Uncertainty is the result of not trusting your trading system. Not trusting your trading system is the result of not having adequately proven your trading system through extensive backtesting. Not having adequately proven your trading system though extensive backtesting is the result of laziness or an emotional rush to trade without full preparation. Stop being lazy or rushing to trade without full preparation. The fear will go away.

Excellent post...I might just tape it to my monitor. :)
 
Quote from kut2k2:

Fear is a consequence of uncertainty. Uncertainty is the result of not trusting your trading system. Not trusting your trading system is the result of not having adequately proven your trading system through extensive backtesting. Not having adequately proven your trading system though extensive backtesting is the result of laziness or an emotional rush to trade without full preparation. Stop being lazy or rushing to trade without full preparation. The fear will go away.

There are quite of few assumptions here. Almost like that "don't end up in a roadside ditch" commercial.

You might think adrenaline and excitement is actually fear. And this isn't 100% fear, like maybe right before almost certain death. Or even 50% fear, like getting mugged by a guy with a gun, etc....

So maybe quantify what % of fear.

It's not like he is hiding in the closet afraid of his system. I'm sure athletes get nervous before an event, but you don't tell them to go train harder. You watch them race/compete, see how they do, and then see if the "fear" was qualified.

Just not sure emotions are easily scientifically qualified.
 
Quote from fxgator:

I think it is normal for all people to have fears. I believe that a person that has never experienced this feeling is not normal. But it really hurts when fear is starting to get all over us and hinders us to do the things we wanted to do. In forex, I'm sure that all we are have fears of loosing money at first. So during your early days in forex, how were you able to get rid of the fear of loosing money?

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trade with a cougar in the room
 
Work on controlling emotional reaction. Walk through the thing you fear in your mind and take action being detached from the result by sticking to a good trading system.
 
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