FBI arrests would-be Capitol bomber outside D.C.

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Quote from Trader666:

How about you get your head out of your ass and stay on topic?

Says the guy who couldn't follow a topic if it was lead by a supermodel shitting a lobster roll.

Now al Qaeda sources are good enough for you.

Do the Islamofacscist want to kill us for our freedom or is there some other reason? Huh? Dumbshit?

 

[trefoil]

Quote from Trader666:

No, you reading "radical Islam" but ignoring the "radical" part is... indicative.

Rilly? And the Ground Zero mosque was radical too? What parts of Islam do you not find radical, since you find it far too radical for them to build a place to worship, in a country that guarantees them and everyone else that right in the First Amendment? You know, the one that comes before the Second?
Do you really think you're fooling anyone with that fig leaf?
Now answer the freakin question and stop being evasive.

 

[Max E.]

Very well said, and i agree with you.

I have been wondering the same thing for a while. Either the FBI is tapping the phones/internet of almost every single muslim, in which case they are monitoring all of us much more closely then we would like to think, or the FBI ia actually getting tips on people who are on the edge, who make some kind of comment and get reported and then sending in their own people to push the person over the edge, then arrest them and claim victory.

There is no way that the FBI could have been this good at tracking these people down, unless they are the luckiest people on earth, or there is shit that they dont want us knowing about going on behind the scenes.

Or i guess the other possibility is that Muslims are the dumbest fucking criminals on the planet..... Something i highly doubt given their success in other countries...

Quote from pspr:

I'm more than a little confused and concerned that every time there is a plot to blow up something in the U.S. the FBI (or other agency) knows all about it and has acted to provide the perpetrator with fake explosive material. This has happend more than a couple times in the last year or two.

This makes me think of two possibilities.

1) The FBI and other national crime fighting agencies have become incredibly good at infiltrating and finding EVERY person or group that wants to harm Americans. I find this hard to fathom in its entirety. Or

2) The FBI and other agencies are so desperate to show the public that they are effectively stopping terrorists that they are actually creating the terrorist plots by finding some willing dolt to set up to into thinking he can and should do this and then supplying the method and material for him to take the action they put into his mind.

I honestly don't know which is the truth or if it is a combination of both.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Very well said, and i agree with you.

I have been wondering the same thing for a while. Either the FBI is tapping the phones/internet of almost every single muslim, in which case they are monitoring all of us much more closely then we would like to think, or the FBI ia actually getting tips on people who are on the edge, who make some kind of comment and get reported and then sending in their own people to push the person over the edge, then arrest them and claim victory.

There is no way that the FBI could have been this good at tracking these people down, unless they are the luckiest people on earth, or there is shit that they dont want us knowing about going on behind the scenes.

Or i guess the other possibility is that Muslims are the dumbest fucking criminals on the planet..... Something i highly doubt given their success in other countries...

You hit on another disturbing aspect in that the monitoring of our communications may have reached such a level that none of our conversations are safe from scrutiny.

Laws were passed to prevent the government from monitoring our conversations over the telephone or from opening our mail when those were the primary means of personal communication other than in person conversation. But, no such laws have been passed by Congress for the same protections for the new means of communication over the Internet. It will probably take a huge abuse of that power before the people demand that Congress take such action. The "war on terror" has been a tremendous detriment to our freedoms and privacy that will eventually come back to bite us on the butt.

 

[Max E.]

I agree 100%

Quote from pspr:

You hit on another disturbing aspect in that the monitoring of our communications may have reached such a level that none of our conversations are safe from scrutiny.

Laws were passed to prevent the government from monitoring our conversations over the telephone or from opening our mail when those were the primary means of personal communication other than in person conversation. But, no such laws have been passed by Congress for the same protections for the new means of communication over the Internet. It will probably take a huge abuse of that power before the people demand that Congress take such action. The "war on terror" has been a tremendous detriment to our freedoms and privacy that will eventually come back to bite us on the butt.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from pspr:

... But, no such laws have been passed by Congress for the same protections for the new means of communication over the Internet. It will probably take a huge abuse of that power before the people demand that Congress take such action....

I'm surprised the Obama administration hasn't sent me to a gulag in Detroit.

 

[pspr]

Don't count it out if somehow he gets 4 more years. Aaaaaaaaah. It hurts just to even mention that thought.

Quote from Lucrum:

I'm surprised the Obama administration hasn't sent me to a gulag in Detroit.

 

[rew]

Quote from pspr:

You hit on another disturbing aspect in that the monitoring of our communications may have reached such a level that none of our conversations are safe from scrutiny.

Laws were passed to prevent the government from monitoring our conversations over the telephone or from opening our mail when those were the primary means of personal communication other than in person conversation. But, no such laws have been passed by Congress for the same protections for the new means of communication over the Internet. It will probably take a huge abuse of that power before the people demand that Congress take such action. The "war on terror" has been a tremendous detriment to our freedoms and privacy that will eventually come back to bite us on the butt.

Well, I can agree with pspr on something. But who is the only candidate intent on stopping this country from sliding into a police state?

That's right, the "kook". The "America hater", according to those who think that loving America means loving war.

 

[Max E.]

LOL, the new version of intternment camps will be sentencing private sector, tax paying citizens to the "re-education camps" in shitholes like detroit to prove to them that they cant survive without the help of the government.....

Quote from Lucrum:

I'm surprised the Obama administration hasn't sent me to a gulag in Detroit.

 

[pspr]

Quote from rew:

Well, I can agree with pspr on something. But who is the only candidate intent on stopping this country from sliding into a police state?

That's right, the "kook". The "America hater", according to those who think that loving America means loving war.

We agree on a lot of things. I just don't think there is an easy path to Utopia.