Fast Food and Minimum Wage

[piezoe]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Ludicrous to left wing, big government types like yourself, sure.

It doesn't work in Europe because of the aforementioned issues - hence why your comparison to Europe is not an apples to apples one. But it absolutely works here (when allowed to by the Feds) and it was designed to work as such.

"The Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution makes all “powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Tsing, I'd prefer that you referred to me as an efficient government type, rather than a big government type.

I just wanted to mention that setting a national minimum wage is a power granted to the Federal government by the Constitution under the Commerce clause. This has been tested in the Court (see U.S. v. Darby Lumber Co., 312 U.S. 100, 1941.) States naturally, may at their option legislate a higher minimum wage, because doing so does not violate the federal statute. And that's as it should be in my opinion.

Much more interesting are Statutory laws that set aside certain powers granted to the Federal Government under the Constitution and reserve them to the States. One could argue that these statutes are an abrogation of Federal Responsibility. An example would be the McCarran-Ferguson Act.

The Constitution is silent on the issue of whether the Federal Government can abrogate it responsibilities by Statute. I would think it certainly can by statute, but not by neglect.

I think it would be a very, very bad idea for the Federal government to, by statute, leave setting the minimum wage entirely to the States. The current arrangement is best.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from piezoe:

Tsing, I'd prefer that you referred to me as an efficient government type, rather than a big government type.

Even though you recently stated you're "not concerned with the size of government"? You can't be both ways, make up your mind.

 

[piezoe]

Quote from Lucrum:

Even though you recently stated you're "not concerned with the size of government"? You can't be both ways, make up your mind.

Language can be a difficult beast sometimes, especially when taken out of context. If you'll please go back and re-quote me in context it would be much appreciated.

 

[piezoe]

Quote from jem:

1. You may wish to try this again... you gave the text book answer but the books were written by big govt cronies. It is completely backward.

Think about this before you respond...worldwide demand for the dollar would cause the price of the dollar to rise... thereby the price of things priced in dollars would go down. Really think before you answer. Think about the expanding world economy and the demand for our dollar. If the supply of dollars were fixed. The price of a dollar would have soared.

Even gold would have gone down relative to the dollar.

It would take more and more gold to get a dollar. Dollars were demanded by the expanding worldwide economy. Had the supply of dollar remained static the wealth of americans, our savings and our income would have skyrocketed.

Yet somehow dollars got all over the world and demand was satisfied. How did that happen? There is one obvious answer.

However the answer you always hear and read is... govt overspending. Which is wrong.

1. 5

if we were borrowing the money from the japanese and others to finance our gov overspending... there would be no net devaluation of the dollar because we got the yen for pieces of paper and we would later return the yen or more IOUs.

It would not have turned inflationary until 2008 when the Fed had to start buying our debt itself.

Fine, except you have it backwards, the price of gold in dollars on the international market did not go down, it went up, what does this tell you about the supply of dollars? (I won't mention the possibility of the price of gold in dollars being affected by something other than the supply of dollars. That might confuse you. I refuse to take advantage of your ignorance. )

But you are right about one thing, books, you know, those things "written by big govt cronies" in your words, could be very threatening to your biases. But fortunately you're not at danger.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from piezoe:

Language can be a difficult beast sometimes, especially when taken out of context. If you'll please go back and re-quote me in context it would be much appreciated.

piezoe, Lucrum doesn't care about anything except arguing and personal attacks for those whose ideas he disagrees with or those with ideas he doesn't understand.

 

[kid.fx.cross]

Quote from piezoe:

Tsing, I'd prefer that you referred to me as an efficient government type, rather than a big government type.

I just wanted to mention that setting a national minimum wage is a power granted to the Federal government by the Constitution under the Commerce clause. This has been tested in the Court (see U.S. v. Darby Lumber Co., 312 U.S. 100, 1941.) States naturally, may at their option legislate a higher minimum wage, because doing so does not violate the federal statute. And that's as it should be in my opinion.

Much more interesting are Statutory laws that set aside certain powers granted to the Federal Government under the Constitution and reserve them to the States. One could argue that these statutes are an abrogation of Federal Responsibility. An example would be the McCarran-Ferguson Act.

The Constitution is silent on the issue of whether the Federal Government can abrogate it responsibilities by Statute. I would think it certainly can by statute, but not by neglect.

I think it would be a very, very bad idea for the Federal government to, by statute, leave setting the minimum wage entirely to the States. The current arrangement is best.

no takers? I'm walking through here naked and nobody is getting turned on?

Setting a minimum wage ok?

Setting a maximum wage bad?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from piezoe:

Language can be a difficult beast sometimes, especially when taken out of context. If you'll please go back and re-quote me in context it would be much appreciated.

Quote from piezoe:
11-27-13 12:32 PM

...I am not concerned about the size of government...

Of course you do flip flop a lot.

Quote from piezoe:
12-03-13 03:37 PM
Naturally I am concerned with the size of government....

 

[wrbtrader]

Quote from TGregg:

...Even more interesting, what are the prices for a Big Mac in Jersey? A Double Cheeseburger? A large fries? It'd be interesting to see. And how about employment? How has it changed?

There's plenty more to say, like what would happen if the protesters got their $15 an hour. But I'll leave that for others or for later. Anybody know Jersey McDonald prices?

Fast food restaurants will go out of business are hike up their prices.

$10 dollar Big Macs soon.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bigarrow:

piezoe, Lucrum doesn't care about anything except arguing and personal attacks for those whose ideas he disagrees with or those with ideas he doesn't understand.

Quote from bigarrow:
12-05-13 11:36 PM
Try harder, thinking takes practice and your a 500# obese man when it comes to thinking. You might need to start with simple puzzles and math problems before you try jumping to understanding complicated ideas, not that understanding this is that complicated. There are a few reasons I won't explain this to you, one is your too biased to grasp an idea that conflicts with your religion and second is your a dumbass and it's entertaining seeing you dumbfounded and third is you are a fucking jerk and I don't mind seeing you stay ignorant.

1) While opposed to a min wage in general it's hardly with any religious fervor, hence my asking for evidence an increase is needed. Except for the change in CPI your fellow liberal has failed miserably at proving his assertions.
2)Unlike you however he is smart enough to obfuscate and is at least attempting to make an argument. Weak and unsubstantiated as it may be.
3)It's "you are" or "you're" a dumb ass (two words) you illiterate moron.
4)Where is YOUR argument or contribution for a increase in the min wage?
Preferably something besides touchy feely bleeding heart bull shit.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Lucrum:

1)
3)It's "you are" or "you're" a dumb ass (two words) you illiterate moron.

You really should stop with the insults since you're too big of a pussy to back up your talk.
I think you've looked up all my past posts. I've think I've already stated my opinion on the reasons I support a minimum wage. Go find it, then get back to us.