Blue lives in Idaho. When I took a trial, he invited me to visit him and discuss anything about trading. I asked him one question: Will I be able to observe him trading the calls he makes in the room (he was making calls back then)? The answer was no and when I asked why, he said he doesn't trade. He's a commodities broker aka a customer's man.
Quote from marketsurfer:
hahahaha. that guy from AMP calls me almost everyday also! first several times, i couldn't understand what he was saying, then i figured it out-- A and P futures?? they must have hired some telemarketing company to pitch for them, not real bright. no idea where they got my number.<i>greetings, maaarkeeetsuuurfer--evir here of A M P fitures? We r har to hilp youuuuuuuu......</i>
give it a break, AMP.
surf
I think it's a one man show if I am not mistaken....lol
I asked them once how they could make sure they took care of me as a customer when the guy that runs the business was always on the phone and sending emails....I never got a reply.
geox, it sounds like Blue was honest with you then, when he told you he is a broker, and does not trade. But that is very much contrary to the impression he gives in the free trial, and it is contrary to what he has told us. Even in this last free trial, a guy point blank asked Blue if he was taking the short trade he called on the first day of the trial in his own account, which ended up losing 17 points? Blue typed into the room that he sure did! Which was a lie.
And then during this last week, Blue tries to turn it all around. Of course, the "problem" is not the content of what is posted to this list, instead the "problem" is the fact that this list exists, and how damaging this is to his "room" and the "room members".
I have not seen any postings here, that is damaging to any room member. This thread is about us being taken, we have been had, we have been conned. We are the victims of "foul play". Blue sold us on a lie, or a series of lies. That is the harsh truth.
Yogi, you sum it up perfectly: "Why would he (Blue) go through all of this headache if all he had do to shut us up is prove he can make this work."?
I have asked the question before, and I'll ask again:
If Blue was the super trader he hold himself out to be, don't you think he would trade?
And think of it, how can anyone hold themselves out to be maybe "the greatest trader that has ever lived", when he doesn't trade?
How is it possible to be be a super trader, if you don't trade?
And finally, how is it that he is going to help us become super traders on his system, when he cannot trade it himself?
For the new members, who are all fired up and hopeful they finally are going to become very successful traders, would you not like to know the truth?
Or do you really want to stay in "la-la land"?
Explain to yourself, how a man who cannot trade himself, can make you a successful trader.
What are the odds?
It is time for everybody to wake up. I know it may be too late for us who have already been fleeced. Trading is a tough business, and it is really sad that so many unscrupulous vendors are taking advantage of this and selling their lies and pipe dreams.
To those fellow members who sent me PM's expressing your gratitude and support for my postings this last week, thank you.
To those of you who call us "traitors" for posting here, while giving Blue a free pass or even encourage him to continue his scam, I find it really sad. I guess you continue to be as naive as I was when I joined, even though at that time, nobody raised a warning flag.
You really need to read through the postings to this list again, until you get the picture. PEOPLE, it's all there!
And then during this last week, Blue tries to turn it all around. Of course, the "problem" is not the content of what is posted to this list, instead the "problem" is the fact that this list exists, and how damaging this is to his "room" and the "room members".
I have not seen any postings here, that is damaging to any room member. This thread is about us being taken, we have been had, we have been conned. We are the victims of "foul play". Blue sold us on a lie, or a series of lies. That is the harsh truth.
Yogi, you sum it up perfectly: "Why would he (Blue) go through all of this headache if all he had do to shut us up is prove he can make this work."?
I have asked the question before, and I'll ask again:
If Blue was the super trader he hold himself out to be, don't you think he would trade?
And think of it, how can anyone hold themselves out to be maybe "the greatest trader that has ever lived", when he doesn't trade?
How is it possible to be be a super trader, if you don't trade?
And finally, how is it that he is going to help us become super traders on his system, when he cannot trade it himself?
For the new members, who are all fired up and hopeful they finally are going to become very successful traders, would you not like to know the truth?
Or do you really want to stay in "la-la land"?
Explain to yourself, how a man who cannot trade himself, can make you a successful trader.
What are the odds?
It is time for everybody to wake up. I know it may be too late for us who have already been fleeced. Trading is a tough business, and it is really sad that so many unscrupulous vendors are taking advantage of this and selling their lies and pipe dreams.
To those fellow members who sent me PM's expressing your gratitude and support for my postings this last week, thank you.
To those of you who call us "traitors" for posting here, while giving Blue a free pass or even encourage him to continue his scam, I find it really sad. I guess you continue to be as naive as I was when I joined, even though at that time, nobody raised a warning flag.
You really need to read through the postings to this list again, until you get the picture. PEOPLE, it's all there!
Just my thoughts but you best take care of someone as a customer when you are trading by teaching them how to trade
not just telling them when you are going short or long, they really have to know why they are in the trade in the first place
I got killed in trading rooms many years ago, they would take a trade and the trade would go against them and you know they got out early, because they saw something change or the reason they took the trade was no longer valid, that is why I stress traders< please learn and understand the markets before you trade.
Take 1 minute to think, Trading is one of the hardest encounters
you will embark upon but you read and witness many people tell
you you can learn it in days or weeks is just not true, what have we ever learned in days or weeks that we could go and start doing to make a living, be careful people I have been trading EVERY DAY for over 9 years and I still get tricked or miss something in the markets and I have traded everything
I do belive you can make money in the markets, I feel the best way to make money is learn (1) set up that means 1 just 1 ok now that you understand, it does not matter what that set up is as long know how it works why it works, master one and you can add another set up in the future
If your set up starts to fail you can identify it quickly and get out of the trade, cut you losses and not be like a sitting duck in the trade, if it is working out you will be able to hold longer to make more profit you don't need many trades during the day just a couple and you will be trading for a living !
The markets move so much during the day there so many set ups
please don't try to learn them all, just try one that way you can start making money sooner than not, when you feel you want to learn one more set up take on the challenge, but you still have the one set up that makes you money while you are learning
Take care guys,
Joe Baker
As you see in my prior post I am trying to help beginners by posting what I feel are helpful video clips on youtube, I will keep on doing them in the future
not just telling them when you are going short or long, they really have to know why they are in the trade in the first place
I got killed in trading rooms many years ago, they would take a trade and the trade would go against them and you know they got out early, because they saw something change or the reason they took the trade was no longer valid, that is why I stress traders< please learn and understand the markets before you trade.
Take 1 minute to think, Trading is one of the hardest encounters
you will embark upon but you read and witness many people tell
you you can learn it in days or weeks is just not true, what have we ever learned in days or weeks that we could go and start doing to make a living, be careful people I have been trading EVERY DAY for over 9 years and I still get tricked or miss something in the markets and I have traded everything
I do belive you can make money in the markets, I feel the best way to make money is learn (1) set up that means 1 just 1 ok now that you understand, it does not matter what that set up is as long know how it works why it works, master one and you can add another set up in the future
If your set up starts to fail you can identify it quickly and get out of the trade, cut you losses and not be like a sitting duck in the trade, if it is working out you will be able to hold longer to make more profit you don't need many trades during the day just a couple and you will be trading for a living !
The markets move so much during the day there so many set ups
please don't try to learn them all, just try one that way you can start making money sooner than not, when you feel you want to learn one more set up take on the challenge, but you still have the one set up that makes you money while you are learning
Take care guys,
Joe Baker
As you see in my prior post I am trying to help beginners by posting what I feel are helpful video clips on youtube, I will keep on doing them in the future
LOL You have got to be kidding. Are you for real. Because some guy told some points for you to write down you feel that will make you a trader. He has 25 edges a day what edge are you looking at LOL. I only hope you are not using your families money. You are a joke if you feel this is for real. This man can not trade wake up. Real great risk reward some days 5 points stops and a 1 point hit, The market will never make any money available because it dose not work. Your journey will end you in the poor house. You will lose just like the rest of us. Do you really think you are smatter then everyone that has ever done this. You still have not yet answered the one question if he can do this why does he or his son not trade. And you will hear I cant when I am teaching, fine show me anything with your name on it from anytime. Any year just one thing that can show you can really do it. How can you people be this dumb!!! If someone said they were the best at something and never did it how can that be. It is very easy to say you can do it when the money is not yours. If you are good you will show anyone at anytime. He wont and cant end of story. Your destination will be broke. I cant believe after all the headaches all he needs to do to stop this is show proof. That would shut everyone up, anyone would do it. He is not because he cant. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Remember believe what you see not what someone tell's you. That is what he always said, so Trader 100 go put that on your list God Help Your Family
Trader 100 I am here from the begining almost 2 years. Do you have any idea how many old members have gone. Why because it does not work. Trader 100 you will see after a while you will be gone to. You may stay because of friends but the system does not work. Why would anyone leave? Let him show he can do it. One statement just ONEanytime. Who in there right mind would not want to make that money? And if he tell's you because money does not matter to him then make it and give it to people that need it. You cant win Trader 100 because he cant show it or prove it. I hope you wake up before it is to late. When you do just try and help other people not to make the same mistake you did.
Trading may be a game to some people, but, Trader 100 you can not move forward by having days where you blow through so many numbers backward that you have nothing left to trade with. I just got through burning all those foolish notes and charts that I had and just like blues trades they all went up in smoke. He is a fraud, I paid for the course, took it three times, was booted out of the room for not sucking up and then having the backbone to ask him a tough question. Face it ,he is what he is and that is a fraud. Who wants to root through many different reasons for "context" befor you take a trade, the train will have left the station by that time. Good luck to you because that is what you need to trade his methodology. Remember " a blind chicken can find a piece of grain every once in awhile " to quote ol Blue.
Trader 100 Are you some kind of a nut. Do you really think you are so much smatter then all the rest of us? You are doing this for a week or two and you are going to tell us. You are a joke, you are saying you know within a week what none of us have been able to do. Wake up you are not smarter then any of us. Can you please answer me the one question I have asked over and over. You and a few other just keep skipping over it. If he can do this, number 1 why cant he prove it. If he comes up with, money does not mean that much to me. He should be giving it to charity, All he talks about is giving and taking care of people. Show something that show's he gives to charity. For a man making so much money he should have something to show his students what he does. Also like I said before to shut everyone up show a statement just one from any time just ONE but no good because he cant do it. Trader 100 you may need some mental help, if you are doing so well show us how good you are doing. You cant he cant why it does not work. Wake up you nut.
I'ts a beautiful day in the neightborhood Trader 100. If I wanted a freaking mental coach I would have hired one, got the money to do that with and would have been at a lesser price also. Go and sit in the lotus position with Blue and do some chanting. You are sad if you think that his "mental" antidotes are going to make you a super trader. I have heard him rant more times than I ever care to remember. He can not trade and one day you will see the light if you so choose, meanwhile you'll just fall deeper into the hole.