Fake recovery due to trillions being printed; real test is job growth

lets see what is the FED doing with all this money its printing?? bailing out big banks and insurance companies. It's not going to stimulate the economy. It's going into a big hole. We can all thank Bush for this. Look at chinas stimulus, building dams, roads, all kind of infrastructure. We are paying medicare and healthcare and big banks and big insurance companies that sold protection for big banks in case their mortgages went bad. We need to upgrade our electric grid, build wind and solar farms. Spend 10 billion on a new battery pack for cars. let all the banks fail and establish new banks. Fire all the old guards. Bring in new ideas and new energy. Reform government corruption. upgrade the FAA, we still on a 60's system. thats stimulus.
 
I just checked my bill for food and health insurance. There hasn't been any deflation for the basics in many many many years. Only inflation.
 
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2 words JOB GROWTH, without job growth the economy is not going to turn around anytime soon, aside from that I can tell you right now that job growth in this economy is many years away. REASON BEING IS VERY SIMPLE.....

Anyone saying that we will return back to 4-5% unemployment rates is lying straight to your face. There is about 0% of this happening anytime over the next decade, the jobs created just over the past 20 years were based on an economy that was fueled by cheap and easy credit, cheap credit that fueled the dot com and real estate boom creating millions of new jobs as the economy expanded in its own fantasy like world. Businesses were able to expand and borrow with a simple signature. Homeowners were able to borrow from the 3000SQ Piggy bank and buy just about anything they wanted helping the economy. The world of easy credit is done with, jobs that were created during these booming times may never come back. Creating jobs in this environment is going to be nearly impossible, don't believe the hype about job creation, jobs will never be as plentiful as they once were.
Seems reasonable. Problem is it will not be just the US, but globally as the world need time to be weaned off US consumptions.

People easily forget that economics == jobs. Bankers, derivatives and forex dealers, financial fashion designers, insurers,...,warriors,... don't produce final goods and these jobs should be reduced until it hurts to reduce more (marginal productivity...something), but the world have "value added" from these getting more as a % of GDP !

Many people criticize the US stimulus and bailouts to be ineffective, but none gave any alternative. It seems that a possible (but very painful way) is for the US to seriously press the reset button. Don't let bad businesses pulled down the good and solvent businesses. Don't do any bailout or stimulus. Just print money to tide over those who lost their jobs due to reset by giving them monthly income until economics restructuring kicks in. IMHHO :confused:
 
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And there will be even fewer jobs when cap and trade kicks in. Why would anyone want to expand in this country and pay all the cap fees when they can go to China or India and not pay any. If you thought jobs were being exported before wait till that kicks in.
Where are we going to get all the electricity to recharge all our electric cars? Wind and solar cannot handle the load.

so I was talking with a tech support agent at Dell the other day, the guy was based in the states, so he's like

- ya, so watz wrong witch yo pc?
+ i'm contacting regarding case number ...
- dat ain't no kase number
+ this is the number the last agent gave me
- i don't know man, i told you that ain't no kase number man, ah, never mind

like what the fuck asshole, you get paid what 40K to talk like that you piece of shit, now if I were talking with a tech support based in India I wouldn't be dealing with such a pothead, I prefer talking with someone who is polite yet has an accent over someone who fuckin doesn't know english yet is so fucking full of himself

arrogance deserves to be punished, and it will be
 
I firmly believe we will see massive inflation with all the government spending. With the deficit it will be a matter of inflate or die. The interesting part will be how American AND foreign businesses accommodate. Like another poster said people(and businesses) with large debt will be able to pay it back with cheaper dollars. The companies with hoards of cash will become less valuable because of their large stashes of cash. How will foreign companies that interact with and without America do? Who knows. I don't know what would be the best thing to do with my money, but it will not be in cash! Oil and gold stocks and maybe some good foreign funds. It will be a slow process so we should be able to adapt correctly, if we are looking out for it. We certainly will be living in interesting times!
 
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so I was talking with a tech support agent at Dell the other day, the guy was based in the states, so he's like

- ya, so watz wrong witch yo pc?
+ i'm contacting regarding case number ...
- dat ain't no kase number
+ this is the number the last agent gave me
- i don't know man, i told you that ain't no kase number man, ah, never mind

like what the fuck asshole, you get paid what 40K to talk like that you piece of shit, now if I were talking with a tech support based in India I wouldn't be dealing with such a pothead, I prefer talking with someone who is polite yet has an accent over someone who fuckin doesn't know english yet is so fucking full of himself

arrogance deserves to be punished, and it will be

funny but sad story
 
Just listened to the Meredith Whitney - Margaret Popper interview.
Great stuff !! At last someone who knows what they are talking about and not just another reworking bullshit artist.
 
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