Fact checking Trump stances

1. Immigration
2. Trade
3. Entitlements

Political ignorance haunts 2016 campaign

Ilya Somin is a law professor at George Mason University, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, and author of "Democracy and Political Ignorance: Why Smaller Government is Smarter." The views expressed are the writers' own.

(CNN)A specter is haunting this year's presidential election: political ignorance. Both Democrats and Republicans love to accuse the other party's supporters of that sin. Sadly, both are often right.

The presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump has raised exploitation of ignorance to new heights. Many of the main themes of his campaign prey on it. Trump's campaign first took offwhen he claimed we are being inundated with Mexican immigrants, who increase the crime rate because many are "criminals" and "rapists." In reality, net migration from Mexico has been close to zero for the last 10 years. Yet few Americans seem to know that. And while studies consistently find that immigrants have lower crime rates than native-born Americans, a 2015 Pew Research Center study found that 50% of Americans (and 71% of Republicans) believe immigration is making crime "worse."

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Ilya Somin

Trump's claim that nations such as China, Mexico and Japan are "killing us on trade" because we have trade deficits with them also relies on ignorance. As economists across the political spectrum recognize, free trade benefits the economy, and a bilateral trade deficit between two nations is no more an indicator of economic failure than is my trade deficit with my local supermarket. Unfortunately, studies show that trade is one of the areas where there is the greatest gap between general public opinion and informed opinion.

Trump is far from the only candidate to exploit ignorance this year, merely the most successful. Bernie Sanders, the "democratic socialist" who has mounted an unexpectedly strong challenge for the Democratic nomination, shares some of Trump's demagoguery on trade.

Like Trump, Sanders has also put forward budget projections that most experts, even in his own party, regard as fantastical. Surveys consistently show that most Americans greatly underestimate the percentage of federal spending devoted to big entitlement programs, such as Medicare and Social Security, which are among the largest areas of federal spending. As a result, many voters accept Trump and Sanders' claims that we can not only deal with our serious fiscal problems without reforming them, but also pile on enormous spending increases (Sanders) or tax cuts (Trump). A survey of Sanders supporters by Vox found that the vast majority are unwilling to pay more than a fraction of the tax increases that even Sanders' own projections say would be required to fund the new health care and education programs he proposes. Most likely do not realize the true cost.

The problem of ill-informed voters is certainly not confined to Trump and Sanders, or to the 2016 election; more conventional politicians often manipulate ignorance, as well. It is also not limited to specific issues, instead extending to the basic structure of government.

An October Farleigh Dickinson survey found that only 34% of Americans can name the three branches of government, and 30% cannot even name one. Studies routinely find that large numbers of voters do not know which officials are responsible for which issues, a circumstance that makes it hard to hold them accountable for their performance. All too often, voters reward and punish incumbents for outcomes they do not control, including such things as droughts and even victories by local sports teams.

The biggest determinant of most electoral outcomes is the very recent performance of the economy, even though experts recognize that incumbents usually have little control over short-term economic trends. Such ignorance weakens political accountability, and incentivizes politicians to pursue dangerously misguided policies that prove popular with poorly informed voters...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/opinions/political-ignorance-somin/index.html
 
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wow... another economist goes krugman on us.

1. more crime means more crime. you don't get to reduce it by comparing population averages.

2. A true scholar would alert us to the weaknesses in the studies he cites.

What has happened to schlarship. I used to respect the George Mason school of econ. They should not let this Somin guy use their name if he is not going to write trash like that for cnn.

lets look at his first bit point.

Acting like the population is incorrect when a majority state immigration makes crime worse. It does... there is more crime. He wants to excuse it by comparing population averages. That is stupid on so man levels. Plus the studies he sites frequently suffer from an obvious flaw... (see the last paragraph below.


Now lets remind the establishment of one simple fact.
More criminals equal more crime.
More terrorists equal more terror. Population averages don't reduce numbers of crime or terrorists acts.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...blem-with-downplaying-immigrant-crime/399905/

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office delivered a major report on criminal activity by unauthorized immigrants. The GAO was able to locate the arrest and sentencing records of roughly half the immigrants in local jails and state and federal prisons, and then sampled them to estimate what they contained. Here’s what it found:

  • An estimated 25,000 of these undocumented immigrants serving sentences for homicide
  • A cumulative total of 2.89 million offenses committed by these undocumented immigrants between 2003 and 2009 (although half a million of these were for immigration-related offenses)
  • Among those offenses: An estimated 42,000 robberies, 70,000 sex crimes, 81,000 auto thefts, 95,000 weapons offenses, and 213,000 assaults
Second, crime by the unauthorized, like the population of illegal immigrants itself, appears to be disproportionately concentrated in border states. A Texas Department of Public Safety report obtained by the PJMedia estimated that the illegal immigrants in Texas prisons had committed a total of 2,993 homicides in a state that typically suffers between 1100 and 1400 homicides per year. After years of welcome decline, crime rates are rising in immigration hubs includingHouston, Milwaukee, Phoenix, and San Diego.

Third, statistics on contemporary immigrant crime likely contain a downward bias. When most studies report that immigrants commit fewer crimes than natives, many rely—as I did above—on incarceration rates. Prison populations are the most authoritative source of data on immigrant crime. It’s much easier to assess the immigration status of a person in custody, after all.

But because U.S. prison sentences are so long, prisons house many people whose criminal activities occurred years, or even decades, in the past. Many of the people in prison today were sent there at a time when the foreign-born population was smaller and crime rates were higher. The Department of Homeland Securityestimates that 20 percent of the U.S. prison population is foreign born. That does not imply that foreign-born persons are committing only 20 percent of crime right now. Yet that is how the statistic is often used.
 
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A survey of Sanders supporters by Vox found that the vast majority are unwilling to pay more than a fraction of the tax increases that even Sanders' own projections say would be required to fund the new health care and education programs he proposes. Most likely do not realize the true cost.



Sanders's plan would put an additional $5,000 of federal tax liability on households earning $50,000, but in exchange he would nationalize vital services currently in the private sector.

That means at least some of the money we're now paying private companies would be paid to the federal government instead.

But the majority of Sanders supporters in our poll (much less all voters) aren't willing to pay enough to actually support those nationalized services.

This isn't a question of whether Sanders's ideas are valid. This is a question of how voters are thinking about Sanders's revolution, which is a radical increase in the scope of what government is responsible for, versus the private sector.

To their credit, some Sanders supporters have done the math and figured out that even with big tax increases, they would end up saving more money from Sanders's new programs. But many other people were surprised when they used our candidate tax calculator and found out how much additional taxes they would pay under Sanders's plan.

Yet that's the revolution — one that promises Medicare for all, public college tuition for all, massive investments in infrastructure, expanded Social Security, etc. Those services require higher taxes, but could also save people money in the long run.
 
wow... another economist goes krugman on us.

1. more crime means more crime. you don't get to reduce it by comparing population averages.

2. A true scholar would alert us to the weaknesses in the studies he cites.

What has happened to schlarship. I used to respect the George Mason school of econ. They should not let this Somin guy use their name if he is not going to write trash like that for cnn.

lets look at his first bit point.

Acting like the population is incorrect when a majority state immigration makes crime worse. It does... there is more crime. He wants to excuse it by comparing population averages. That is stupid on so man levels. Plus the studies he sites frequently suffer from an obvious flaw... (see the last paragraph below.


Now lets remind the establishment of one simple fact.
More criminals equal more crime.
More terrorists equal more terror. Population averages don't reduce numbers of crime or terrorists acts.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...blem-with-downplaying-immigrant-crime/399905/

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office delivered a major report on criminal activity by unauthorized immigrants. The GAO was able to locate the arrest and sentencing records of roughly half the immigrants in local jails and state and federal prisons, and then sampled them to estimate what they contained. Here’s what it found:

  • An estimated 25,000 of these undocumented immigrants serving sentences for homicide
  • A cumulative total of 2.89 million offenses committed by these undocumented immigrants between 2003 and 2009 (although half a million of these were for immigration-related offenses)
  • Among those offenses: An estimated 42,000 robberies, 70,000 sex crimes, 81,000 auto thefts, 95,000 weapons offenses, and 213,000 assaults
Second, crime by the unauthorized, like the population of illegal immigrants itself, appears to be disproportionately concentrated in border states. A Texas Department of Public Safety report obtained by the PJMedia estimated that the illegal immigrants in Texas prisons had committed a total of 2,993 homicides in a state that typically suffers between 1100 and 1400 homicides per year. After years of welcome decline, crime rates are rising in immigration hubs includingHouston, Milwaukee, Phoenix, and San Diego.

Third, statistics on contemporary immigrant crime likely contain a downward bias. When most studies report that immigrants commit fewer crimes than natives, many rely—as I did above—on incarceration rates. Prison populations are the most authoritative source of data on immigrant crime. It’s much easier to assess the immigration status of a person in custody, after all.

But because U.S. prison sentences are so long, prisons house many people whose criminal activities occurred years, or even decades, in the past. Many of the people in prison today were sent there at a time when the foreign-born population was smaller and crime rates were higher. The Department of Homeland Securityestimates that 20 percent of the U.S. prison population is foreign born. That does not imply that foreign-born persons are committing only 20 percent of crime right now. Yet that is how the statistic is often used.
Thanks Jem. CNN will bend over to find the worst type of academics to backup their Democrat liberal stance.
 
Trump: All policy proposals are just flexible suggestions


There has been confusion this week over just how committed Donald Trump is to implementing his policy proposals if he becomes president, especially when it comes to calling for tax cuts for the wealthy and a temporary ban on allowing most foreign Muslims into the country.

During an interview on "Fox and Friends" on Friday morning, Trump clarified: "Look, anything I say right now — I'm not the president. Everything is a suggestion. No matter what you say, it is a suggestion."

It was a sentiment that Trump reiterated during an interview with the "Today" show, also on Friday, adding that as president he would be "totally flexible on very, very many issues."
 
Trump: All policy proposals are just flexible suggestions


There has been confusion this week over just how committed Donald Trump is to implementing his policy proposals if he becomes president, especially when it comes to calling for tax cuts for the wealthy and a temporary ban on allowing most foreign Muslims into the country.

During an interview on "Fox and Friends" on Friday morning, Trump clarified: "Look, anything I say right now — I'm not the president. Everything is a suggestion. No matter what you say, it is a suggestion."

It was a sentiment that Trump reiterated during an interview with the "Today" show, also on Friday, adding that as president he would be "totally flexible on very, very many issues."
Let's check with John Miller and John Barron for their opinions on this.
 
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Less crime means less crime.
The left loves this chart. What they don't love is the chart that shows the dramatic increase of black men in the prison system over the exact same period, and then trying to explain that there is no coloration between the two.
 
  • An estimated 25,000 of these undocumented immigrants serving sentences for homicide
  • A cumulative total of 2.89 million offenses committed by these undocumented immigrants between 2003 and 2009 (although half a million of these were for immigration-related offenses)
  • Among those offenses: An estimated 42,000 robberies, 70,000 sex crimes, 81,000 auto thefts, 95,000 weapons offenses, and 213,000 assaults
would close to 1.4 million non immigration offenses have been committed if illegal aliens had been kept out of the country or not.

so is that more crime or less crime.

its not like for ever illegal alien criminal we brought in we shipped a citizen criminal out. We kept both.






declineincrime_victimizationbyage.jpg


Less crime means less crime.
 
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