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Controversies relating to Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh

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Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh is outspoken in both his faith and his politics and controversies surrounding him have sometimes made the headlines.

Controversial views

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz has called Ginsburg "a well known radical on his views on Israel Arab public", referencing his "prosecution in the past for incitement to racism after having published a book insisting that there is no place for Arabs in the state of Israel".

In 1989, Ginsburg was quoted in New York Times his views concerning recent attacks against Palestinians and the rise of racism in Israel:

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg had offered biblical justification for the view that the spilling of non-Jewish blood was a lesser offense than the spilling of Jewish blood. Any trial based on the assumption that Jews and goyim are equal is a total travesty of justice, he said.

In 1994, Ginsburgh received much publicity on account of an article "Baruch Hagever" in which he praised Baruch Goldstein who had massacred 29 Arab worshippers at the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron. Rabbi Ginsburgh wrote that it is possible to view Baruch Goldstein's act as following five Halachic principles, namely "sanctification of God's name", "saving life" (referring to testimonies that he had allegedly received regarding a planned Arab massacre of Jews), "revenge", "eradication of the seed of Amalek" and "war". Motti Inbari commented on this:

In his writings, Ginzburg gives prominence to Halachic and kabbalistic approaches that emphasize the distinction between Jew and non-Jew (Gentile), imposing a clear separation and hierarchy in this respect. He claims that while the Jews are the Chosen People and were created in God's image, the Gentiles do not have this status, and are effectively considered subhuman. Accordingly, for example, the commandment "Thou shall not murder does not apply to the killing of a Gentile, since "You shall not murder" relates to the murder of a human, while for him the Gentiles do not constitute humans.

Similarly, Ginzburg stated that, on the theoretical level, if a Jew requires a liver transplant to survive, it would be permissible to seize a Gentile and take their liver forcefully. From this point only a small further step is required to actively encourage and support the killing of non-Jews, as Ginzburg did in the case of Goldstein.
Ro'ee Sharon, correspondent for Israeli newspaper, Maariv, wrote the following in his summary to an article reviewing Rabbi Ginsburgh and his work,


The scope of his teachings is far greater than merely nationalist ideology. In the dozens of books the Rabbi has written, he exhibits a rare command of the exact sciences, music, Chassidut, philosophy, psychology, and Kabbalah. His closest students are unwilling to address the topic of racial prejudice in his writings separately from the rest of his teachings. One of them noted that these teachings are on just one floor out of a skyscraper of thought, and it is meaningless to treat one small apartment separately from the rest of the building.

Most recently, in July 2010, Ginsburgh was detained by Israeli police for questioning regarding a book "The King's Torah", which he had suggested that his disciples read. According to a report by the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the book says "It is permissible to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation... if we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder"


How threatened do you feel by secret Jewish cells here in America? How would you compare that to secret Islamic cells here in America? Secret Christian cells?

-gastropod
 
Could one secretive Jewish cell have access to a dirty bomb and use it, and be smart enough to make it look like it was the work of Islamic extremists?

Every secretive cell with bad intention toward America is a threat, don't you agree?


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How threatened do you feel by secret Jewish cells here in America? How would you compare that to secret Islamic cells here in America? Secret Christian cells?

-gastropod
 
Quote from gastropod:

How threatened do you feel by secret Jewish cells here in America? How would you compare that to secret Islamic cells here in America? Secret Christian cells?

-gastropod

AIPAC may as well be a cell.
 
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Could one secretive Jewish cell have access to a dirty bomb and use it, and be smart enough to make it look like it was the work of Islamic extremists?

Every secretive cell with bad intention toward America is a threat, don't you agree?

My question is: How would you rank and measure your feelings about "secret Jewish, Islamic and Christian cells?

-gastropod
 
I see no need to measure.

Do you?

Why is that?

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My question is: How would you rank and measure your feelings about "secret Jewish, Islamic and Christian cells?

-gastropod
 
Extremism problem is bigger than most people realize. Western Media keeps it hush hush.


“Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel,” Yosef said in his weekly Saturday night sermon which was devoted to laws regarding actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on the Sabbath.
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/20...e-donkey-non-jews-were-created-to-serve-jews/


"Yahweh created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts.
The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form and is condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
(Midrash Talpioth 225)

"Satanic creatures called "Kliphoth," or Gentiles. The rabbinic treatise, "Sepher Or Israel, 117," recommends: "Take the life of the Klipoth and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him." 2

Haredim settlers in Israel see the extermination of the Gentile as a necessary process toward restoring order in the universe. They teach that the Gentile is a form of demon who should be treated with no more genuine benevolence than one would treat Satan himself.

"Rabbi Jehuda said to him Rabbi Chezkia: "He is to be praised who is able to free himself from the enemies of Israel, and the just are much to be praised who get free from them and fight against them." Rabbi Chezkia asked, "How must we fight against them?" Rabbi Jehuda said, "By wise counsel thou shalt war against them." (Proverbs 24:6) "By what kind of war?" "The kind of war that every son of man must war against his enemies. Which Jacob used against Esau-by deceit and trickery wherever possible. They must be fought against without ceasing, until proper order be restored. Thus it is with satisfaction that I say we should free ourselves from them, and rule over them."" 7

When Jews control the planet, God's power will be manifest through the Messiah. "The Holy One, blessed be He, will display His force, and exterminate Gentiles from the world." 8

"Their work is vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh; they will perish when God visits them in his wrath." At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist even as it is written: "The Lord alone will appear great on that day."" 9
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When Israelis Burned Bibles,
Most Christians Were Silent
http://www.rense.com/general92/burnss.htm
 
Yes, it's quite rare that you see extremism from Jews or Christians, but it's quite common for Muslims. Thanks for proving that point.

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It is called balance.

How many threads/posts do we see in which a Jew is shown for their extremist thinking?

Compare that to threads rightly showing Islamic extremism.

I'm not denying extremism wherever it exists, and clearly it has been shown to exist in the Jewish community, as well as the Christian community, Islamic community, etc.

It is/was your error to think I am suggesting that extremism is limited to one party, one religion, one "ism."

But your defensiveness, and more strawmam fallacy attempts are duly noted.
 
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