Quote from PoundTheRock:
Hi P1, thanks for your reply. Read your second paragraph again. "I've done my testing in real time", then "I don't get into drawdowns and hope." Trust me, there will come a time when you get into drawdowns and hope. Let's revisit your crew analogy in a trading context. You've prepared yourself physically and mentally, putting all your energy into a winning strategy. Your strategy has a positive expectancy, but you have an unexpected string of losses. The losses wear on you; you are losing money. What are the metrics that support your decision to continue using your strategy?
Regards,
PTR
P.S. I apologize for the intervention.
Quote from PointOne:
Hey PTR, great to hear from you again!
I'm not sure I can trust you, actually. Sorry.
What is expectancy exactly? How is it determined? How does it help? (Clearly it does not otherwise there would be no unexpected losers, right?)
Honestly, all this pseudo-science quackery of probability and prediction is pretty delusional.
Best,
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-1
Quote from PointOne:
Hey PTR, great to hear from you again!
I'm not sure I can trust you, actually. Sorry.
What is expectancy exactly? How is it determined? How does it help? (Clearly it does not otherwise there would be no unexpected losers, right?)
Honestly, all this pseudo-science quackery of probability and prediction is pretty delusional.
Best,
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-1
Quote from ^^^^^^:
Don't be silly. Of course you are making predictions. You at times are predicting CHANGE and at other times predicting CONTINUATION. You just haven't a clue as to the probability of your predictions working out correctly.
Quote from PointOne:
I agree making predictions is silly.
That's why there is no prediction involved in this method.
All you have to do is notice that change is afoot, press the button and hold until the next change (on your monitoring and skill level). We don't predict how long the move will last, how far it will go or place stops where they will be hit by noise - we monitor for change NOW. We stay on the right side and wash if we drew the wrong conclusion from the sufficient, recent past data set. We fall as beginners and we get back up.
It is so simple.
You really are very stuck: how many years have you attempted to learn something from Jack? You don't appear to be dumb, just very very stuck. Oh well.
Quote from ^^^^^^:
At the moment you press the button you have just made a prediction, took a chance, placed a bet or [insert term here].
The very fact that you have a backup plan or contingency indicates that you understand the endeavor is probabalistic and yet you deny it !
Fantastic.
I love it.
A perfect example of Hershey programming his droids to avoid thinking for themselves. This guy at one point thought the idea of probability was worth exploring. The Minister of Truth set him straight. All traders must learn Newspeak.
Quote from PointOne:
I agree making predictions is silly.
That's why there is no prediction involved in this method.
All you have to do is notice that change is afoot, press the button and hold until the next change (on your monitoring and skill level). We don't predict how long the move will last, how far it will go or place stops where they will be hit by noise - we monitor for change NOW. We stay on the right side and wash if we drew the wrong conclusion from the sufficient, recent past data set. We fall as beginners and we get back up.
It is so simple.
You really are very stuck: how many years have you attempted to learn something from Jack? You don't appear to be dumb, just very very stuck. Oh well.
Quote from PointOne:
Actually my disdain for prediction was drummed into me by previous experience (that I don't talk about here) and from the writings and musings of Ed Seykota, among others.
I supported your one-sided motion for debate, but you draw the wrong conclusion about which side I would argue.
Pressing the button does not constitute an act of prediction - it is just getting in long or short. Thereafter you are either on the right side or not. No probabilities are assigned to anything, no targets, no R/R comfort blanket, just IN NOW and hold until change.
You think that because more things could happen than do happen you can assign a number to each possible outcome and be more confident about it. Well to me that sounds like prediction and primitive soothsaying.