Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even breathing

[Cuddles]

You're not being realistic in your numbers because you are assuming a large number of infected but a symptomatic that will not go on to develop symptoms and die at the observed rate. Where we have accurate data, that data indicates you are wrong to assume that asymptomatic when tested means that they will remain asymptomatic. But the worst assumption you are making is that physicians don't usually know what people die from, or worse yet, you may be assuming some left wing conspiracy to lump all deaths in with CoVid deaths. If so, this is lunatic thinking.

dude's clearly trolling, anyone w/any passing knowledge of statistics knows this, best to ignore

 

[Turveyd]

I have a brilliant idea. Why don't you give us a source for this number. Anything based on data will do.

You mean like already posted above and ignored, and Farmer John's posted to in a new thread.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000.

If these estimates were true, the mortality rate from COVID-19 would be much lower (around 25 times less) than the case fatality rate based solely on laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths, since it would be underestimating cases (the denominator) by a factor of about 1/100 and deaths by a factor of 1/4.

 

[Turveyd]

dude's clearly trolling, anyone w/any passing knowledge of statistics knows this, best to ignore

Just annoyed how stupid, people that think there smart are, huge ego, tiny brain.

 

[apdxyk]

Just annoyed how stupid, people that think there smart are, huge ego, tiny brain.

Don't be annoyed, this has to be celebrated and exploited. It's all psychosomatic, Doctor.
Consider this to be a rehearsal. Next wave could be real, and crying Wolves is not going to work. Diabolical application of Dialectics.

 

[piezoe]

dude's clearly trolling, anyone w/any passing knowledge of statistics knows this, best to ignore

Your right of course. Why do I bother with these idiots.

 

[piezoe]

"If these estimates were true." "according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested"

 

[Turveyd]

Don't be annoyed, this has to be celebrated and exploited. It's all psychosomatic, Doctor.
Consider this to be a rehearsal. Next wave could be real, and crying Wolves is not going to work. Diabolical application of Dialectics.

1 day a proper 1 will come, then Lockdowns will be required and people will have something real to worry about, currently worrying about nothing.

Judging from the fear over this 1, they'd likely just be that scared they'd kill themselves to save them from errr dying, people!!

 

[Turveyd]

Where as you have no ability to estimate, everyone who's been tested positive has and it and absolutely no body else has because it's so bad, you'd have to go to hospital, which is why you think the tested rate applies to total population.

Despite all the evidence saying NO WRONG!!