Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even breathing

[Turveyd]

Sounds like this nation wide quarantine will last throughout the spring....

Unless it's a total lockdown, nobody can leave there houses and the army in Haz Mat suites deliver food it's not really going to make much difference.

Unlock everything and grow some balls!!

 

[apdxyk]

I think that is what Trump wanted in the beginning: flatten the curve and slowly go back to business, albeit with huge losses. Now, we are facing catastrophic losses, unless Fauci discredits himself quicker than Amarosa did in Season 1

 

[Cuddles]

Yeah, I read a story back in January about this out of China.

The person that wrote it is a Virologist that was vacationing with his wife (Chinese) in China at the time of the outbreak.

He compared the speed of the spread of Covid-19 to Legionnaires disease and Tuberculosis disease. His wife and him along with her family immediately then wore full face mask (looks like a gas mask) before the lock down when everybody around them (neighbours) begin testing positive for Covid-19.

Nobody in her family nor him became infected...they all wore full face masks and bough boxes of medical gloves.

My kids played a prank on me a few days ago via going thru some old military equipment of mine and they found some old gas masks I had swiped before I left the military.

Filters are bad (removed years ago because old filters are dangerous) but my kids made their point.

wrbtrader

I've got a few n95's from house projects & bought some a few weeks ago at Lowe's when the number were getting high in China. Been a bit self-conscious about using them, but fuk it, healthcare is pricey in the US. May even see how well walmart fulfills my order when I go pick it up.

 

[Turveyd]

I think that is what Trump wanted in the beginning: flatten the curve and slowly go back to business, albeit with huge losses. Now, we are facing catastrophic losses, unless Fauci discredits himself quicker than Amarosa did in Season 1

Ours did aswell, but public no balls peer pressure while being scared by the media that 20year olds can die aswell, made him change the policy.

Have to listen to them whine on about having no jobs after this is over ffs

 

[Turveyd]

I've got a few n95's from house projects & bought some a few weeks ago at Lowe's when the number were getting high in China. Been a bit self-conscious about using them, but fuk it, healthcare is pricey in the US. May even see how well walmart fulfills my order when I go pick it up.

Unless your 70+ or have heart or lung issues, don't worry at all about this, 49 FAT but fit ish and barely touched me, even mates with health issues been fine.

Sooner you get it over with, sooner you can stop worrying.

 

[apdxyk]

Yes, this is economic damage, comparable to a WW without nukes and bomb raids. Everybody still wants guarantees, the bureaucrats have too many thoughts running in their minds, e.g. who is gonna be responsible? what happens to my golden bidet? is the yacht, bought for my offshore entity being delivered in Barcelona or Mallorca?

 

[schizo]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

(CNN)A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.

Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

"I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those," said Fineberg, former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health. "But I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN Tuesday that the idea of recommending broad use of masks in the US to prevent the spread of coronavirus is under "very active discussion" by the group.

Fineberg, chair of the NAS' Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, said his letter was sent Wednesday evening in response to a query from Kelvin Droegemeier with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House.

"This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation," it continues.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the virus spreads from person to person when people are within about 6 feet of each other "through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes."

Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.

His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.

Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.

Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.

He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.
How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.

"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."

The problem with USA is it's too damn hard-headed. They fall victim to their own superiority complex. Had they paid attention to South Korea, Japan, and even China, they would have known that wearing mask played a very crucial role in curbing the Corona infection in these nations. Nation of fools-->USA.

 

[Turveyd]

Yes, this is economic damage, comparable to a WW without nukes and bomb raids. Everybody still wants guarantees, the bureaucrats have too many thoughts running in their minds, e.g. who is gonna be responsible? what happens to my golden bidet? is the yacht, bought for my offshore entity being delivered in Barcelona or Mallorca?

They'll make more money fixing this than sitting on a slow upwardly growing market, why they've gone out of there way to save a few old people and allowed the media to scare everyone to death and back.

Plus the public that are scared will think, they saved there lives, all of them individually, people are really that self obsessed these days.

 

[newwurldmn]

The governor of Georgia will cite this study three months from now.

 

[Cuddles]

The problem with USA is it's too damn hard-headed. They fall victim to their own superiority complex. Had they paid attention to South Korea, Japan, and even China, they would have known that wearing mask played a very crucial role in curbing the Corona infection in these nations. Nation of fools-->USA.

seems like CDC was advising against them at some point though appears to be so people wouldn't end up buying the inventory. They're barely reversing course on that decision. I saw what was happening in China....do as the Romans.