Experienced futures scalpers: Chart or DOM

Quote from Visaria:

Your post is copied from an interview in a Market Wizard book. You should have the decency to make the appropriate attribute.

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Quote from marketsurfer:

I have no argument with this, thanks. I agree Chart reading is a subjective art--- prior to PC's and clean data flows it was really all traders had to work with-- but now, to use a PC's power to draw charts makes little sense when that power can be directed to order flow, tape reading----things that happen prior to the print on the chart-- edge is structural not guesing from the past. Many traders are stuck in the past---
A chart does help keep history in a more readable way.

I would like to see a running chart along side the DOM. A chart line recording the quantity of each depth in real time. It would be interesting to see how prices move as that chart fluctuates.
 
Quote from Mercor:

A chart does help keep history in a more readable way.

I would like to see a running chart along side the DOM. A chart line recording the quantity of each depth in real time. It would be interesting to see how prices move as that chart fluctuates.
? Doesn't everybody have that?

maybe not on the computer, but if you are watching it, in your head.

I'm all for using the computer for what it was named for, namely computing. I don't need it to tell me what I already can see,

getting back to opies question, me personally, as a 1 to 3 tick es scalper, I would never enter on a chart. One tick is a huge big deal in that game. And it at times happens fast, I don't want to miss it by even a tick on the chart because I was moving the little pointer.

You asked, I answered, carry on, just one man's (who is glad he never has to scalp again) opinion.
 
Quote from Mercor:

A chart does help keep history in a more readable way.

I would like to see a running chart along side the DOM. A chart line recording the quantity of each depth in real time. It would be interesting to see how prices move as that chart fluctuates.

DOM patterns are of paramount importance to all short term traders. I use it all the time. I developed indicators in Ninja which plot the stuff you mentioned. I started a thread a while back on the subject: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103293

Essentially DOM patterns act as both filters when to skip the trade or when to press on a gas. They can be applied to what ever system you are using.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

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My idea of an ES scalp is 8 ticks...
must be nice to be rich

back then 8 ticks made you a big player

it all ended when I would get stuck with positions on the close

and I saw how much you could make holding overnight

good for the bank account

very bad for sleeping
 
Quote from oldtime:

must be nice to be rich

back then 8 ticks made you a big player

it all ended when I would get stuck with positions on the close

and I saw how much you could make holding overnight

good for the bank account

very bad for sleeping

horrible for sleeping and not always good for the bank account, lol.
 
Quote from oldtime:

must be nice to be rich

back then 8 ticks made you a big player

it all ended when I would get stuck with positions on the close

and I saw how much you could make holding overnight

good for the bank account

very bad for sleeping

You are one funny character, Oldtimer. If these 8 tick, rarely lose chart reading savant types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to anyone who understands market reality, they would soon vanish from the site. Good catch! surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

If these 8 tick, rarely lose chart reading savant types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to anyone who understands market reality, they would soon vanish from the site. Good catch! surf

If these writer/marketer types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to professional futures scalpers who've been extracting considerable profit from the market for years, they would...they would...they would...nah, they'd NEVER vanish from the site :p

Brother Surf, how could a gentleman such as yourself who puts on a YM trade with a 1000 point target believe that claims of taking 8 ticks profit on an ES trade is far beyond market reality?
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

You are one funny character, Oldtimer. If these 8 tick, rarely lose chart reading savant types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to anyone who understands market reality, they would soon vanish from the site. Good catch! surf

Surf, remind me please, who used to say here, they "rarely lose"?

And by the way, who better understands market reality: those who make a living trading every day or those who write about them? :D
 
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