Exclusive: China just gave a big F-U to America, hedge fund manager says

[JSOP]

You are again wrong here. For all the immigrants from China, Russia, India over the past decades, where those folks ended up with? Most of them went into technology fields. Few of them came here to get MBA in the 1990s to early 2000s. With the hostile environment, I think China will be happy to get back all of those people who are in their prime ages of 50s...

Yeah you just proved my point the workforce of these tech companies today are not made up of that generation. Its workforce is lot younger and it's largely made up of people who are either born and raised here or people who have lived all their lives here, naturalized citizens. Either way, like I said, they are Americans, not immigrants, migrants or refugees. If China wants them, US and the West are more than happy to send them China's way.

I do not think China wants to be the world #1 leader.

You are wrong. China does and everything that it does points to that. If it just wants to make money, WHY is it busting its a$$ investing in this "One Belt One Road" project specifically excluding all of the western nations that will create an economic, political, military alliance specifically among all those countries? WHY is it the only country in the world that does this global project? China is not the only rich country in the world.

Look at how much US spends over the globe. This is the reason Trump wanted to change. But he failed. US politicians want to retain the #1 leader position. US spent all the money to defend on foreign soil and care less about the homeless people in NYC and SF....

US is #1. What's your point? China wants to change that obviously? To become world's #1 leader like how you put it perhaps? Homeless people exist everywhere regardless of the wealth level of a country. Some people live on the street as a lifestyle choice. Don't pass judgement on something that you have no idea about. And speaking of spending money on defense instead of its own people's well-being, try to look up how many people in China died, starved to death when its beloved Chairman Mao decided to develop nuclear weapons in the '50s? And this was when China was a 3rd-world country with its economy at a level nowhere near the wealth level of US today. And you are picking on US spending on defense projects instead o the homeless? LOL

 

[Cuddles]

Nice. De-coupling continues. Good or bad?

Bad short term, but fuck Chinese land grabs/concentration camps. Doubt Xi blinks, but he's not dealing w/a silly clown anymore.

It will hurt green energy, semiconductors, EV industry though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1413471059597139972

 

[RedSun]

Because China has become a threat. The world has actually believed that China is really peaceful. Now it's woken up to the reality that it's not. That's what's changed. A kido's 2 minute dancing video might not pose national security but its IP address, its Wifi network structure, its MAC address, its accidental inclusion of her uncle's friend's neighbour's drinking buddy's son-in-law who happens to be working for the US Pentagon that happened to be working on something classified could be.

And Trump did not ban Wechat. It just banned the payment feature of WeChat as far as I remember. And the reason is obvious. Do you want the financial detail of every single transaction to be exposed to a country that is a threat to your way of life and values? You might not mind but I certainly do not.

Sure China was not a threat when China was weaker.... If your neighbor run successfully to be the local city official, do you suddenly feel the threat?

You made such a scary scenario of this kido's 2 minute video. You could say the top secrete Pentagon document was present in the background.... Or whatever you want to make it so serious.

You really know nothing about WeChat. Its payment feature would not work overseas since users would have to be digital verified. If you do not have a local China bank account, you can't do any financial transactions. Of course Trump ordered to remove those apps from US app stores.

 

[RedSun]

Yeah you just proved my point the workforce of these tech companies today are not made up of that generation. Its workforce is lot younger and it's largely made up of people who are either born and raised here or people who have lived all their lives here, naturalized citizens. Either way, like I said, they are Americans, not immigrants, migrants or refugees. If China wants them, US and the West are more than happy to send them China's way.

I'm sure US high tech industry will lag behind if we ban all those immigrants. This will never happens really.

You are wrong. China does and everything that it does points to that. If it just wants to make money, WHY is it busting its a$$ investing in this "One Belt One Road" project specifically excluding all of the western nations that will create an economic, political, military alliance specifically among all those countries? WHY is it the only nation in the world that does this global project? China is not the only rich country in the world.

You are so wrong here. The rich countries do not even want help from China. So China is only interested in working with the developing countries.

US is #1. What's your point? China wants to change that obviously? To become world's #1 leader like how you put it perhaps? Homeless people exist everywhere regardless of the wealth level of a country. Some people live on the street as a lifestyle choice. Don't pass judgement on something that you have no idea about.

Good imagination for argument's sake....

 

[JSOP]

Sure China was not a threat when China was weaker....

China is a threat because China wants world domination and does not share the same value and beliefs as the US and the West. I hope this clarified things more.

If your neighbor run successfully to be the local city official, do you suddenly feel the threat?

No. But if this neighbour is a mafia crime boss or a street gang leader known for not respecting humanity, then yes I would be deeply concerned or "feel the threat" as how you put it if he/she all of sudden became the mayor who will be governing very intimate aspects of my life and my family's lives.

 

[RedSun]

FT Article:

Xi and Washington’s China hawks unite against Chinese tech IPOs in US

When both camps unite together for the same thing, it speaks very loud and stands out. This is just the fall-out from the de-coupling, nothing else. I sense a lot of those China ADRs may voluntarily de-list. There is no future. A lot of liabilities.

 

[RedSun]

China is a threat because China wants world domination and does not share the same value and beliefs as the US and the West. I hope this clarified things more.

No. But if this neighbour is a mafia crime boss or a street gang leader known for not respecting humanity, then yes I would be deeply concerned or "feel the threat" as how you put it.

So your neighbor is a threat to you if they do not share the same value as you do? So you want to challenge them, dominate them and lead your neighborhood with sticks?

Nobody cares about a 2-minute TikTok video. Only you and Mr. Trump care about it....

 

[JSOP]

So your neighbor is a threat to you if they do not share the same value as you do? So you want to challenge them, dominate them and lead your neighborhood with sticks?

If he/she wants to become the mayor governing very intimate aspects of my life and my family's lives, yes, especially like I said, when he/she is a mafia crime boss or a street gang leader known for not respecting humanity, otherwise, no but would still be concerned and feel uneasy like how the world feels towards Iran right now.

And no US does not want to dominate China or lead with sticks, just wants to be guarded a little bit and convince others to be guarded a little bit as well when dealing with China. China is being paranoid about that as expressed by you and that is unfortunate.

Nobody cares about a 2-minute TikTok video. Only you and Mr. Trump care about it....

I actually don't care about any TikTok videos either but one can never be too careful.

 

[RedSun]

If he/she wants to become the mayor governing very intimate aspects of my life and my family's lives, yes, especially like I said, when he/she is a mafia crime boss or a street gang leader known for not respecting humanity, otherwise, no but would still be concerned and feel uneasy like how the world feels towards Iran right now.

And no US does not want to dominate China or lead with sticks, just wants to be guarded a little bit and convince others to be guarded a little bit as well. China is being paranoid about that as expressed by you and that is unfortunate.

I actually don't care about any TikTok videos either but one can never be too careful.

Enjoy your obsession with China. We get more important things to do.

We'll certainly get more peace when the de-coupling continues. Both China and US live their own ways.... You can certainly close your border like what Trump attempted to do, but failed.

 

[JSOP]

FT Article:

Xi and Washington’s China hawks unite against Chinese tech IPOs in US

When both camps unite together for the same thing, it speaks very loud and stands out. This is just the fall-out from the de-coupling, nothing else. I sense a lot of those China ADRs may voluntarily de-list. There is no future. A lot of liabilities.

Yeah like I told you we don't give a s*** about Chinese companies listing in the US. If I can make money trading them, if not, I couldn't care less. If they lie and commit fraud, that's something else. There have been problems with Chinese companies who listed with US exchanges that turn out to be frauds costing US investors hundreds of millions of dollars, in retirement savings even, so not shedding a tear for not seeing those companies on the US exchanges. Buy America!!!