This whole thread is a mess. Between mistrekels narrative-driven charts with no data source which can be explained away and Scat's numbers just blabbered about with no data source, there is zero proof of "excess" deaths because of vaccines.
"Excess Mortality Soars"... every possible explanation considered... except one... COVID VACCINES!!
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This whole thread is a mess. Between mistrekels narrative-driven charts with no data source which can be explained away and Scat's numbers just blabbered about with no data source, there is zero proof of "excess" deaths because of vaccines.
Johns Hopkins? There is a pill for that, right? I mean as protection against excess deaths, not against John’s Hopkins!
Then again, we might want a pill of some sort when thinking of Johns Hopkins, a source of covid misinformation.
Lol, I think you are thinking of Hodgkin's lymphoma. No pill for that for sure!
As for the JH data @misterkel ? Show me, don't tell me.
I already showed you, as you pointed out. THAT's WHAT THE CHARTs were.
https://ourworldindata.org/
Here's some more:
btw, thanks for pointing out that the thread is 'a mess.' Sorry it didn't maintain the usual orderly standards of internet threads, especially on ET.
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NOt sure what your point is.
Only government funded science is objective? (okay, then.)
Objective science is only done by independently wealthy?
Only Science done without money is objective?
Your point is a red herring unless you show some clear conflict of interest based on the funding source.
I've presented multiple data sources showing excess deaths in numerous places, starting primarily from the first half of 2021 and stabilizing from there. While true that correlation is not specific causation, a strong correlation, repeated across time frames and data sets, proves a causal factor does exist, though it has not been clearly shown.
Increases in excess mortality demand an investigation by Public Health Institutions. All institutions are ignoring a clear and present signal being presented in their own data and pointed out by numerous highly qualified doctors and health statisticians.
Why is there no investigation or even acknowledgement of the problem?
We hypothesize that it is because the cause is the vaccine and there is a determined effort to avoid any implication that the vaccine is harmful. This protects the powerful and the health authorities who pushed the vaccine in the first place.
Public health institutions have investigated the excess deaths. There are many reports and studies on the results. The excess deaths are NOT due to Covid vaccinations --- this is an anti-vaxxer fantasy. A large component are due to the unvaccinated dying of Covid, as well as people not getting early medical care for cancer during the pandemic, etc.
btw - the data in the Guardian article - it's from ONS - Office of National Statistics.
Just what are you looking for so it gets the holy pronouncement of valid data? My guess, it could be a dog scratching something in the dirt and if it confirms your pro-vax bias, It's good data!