Examples of the Where the Race Mob Takes us

[El OchoCinco]

No, he didn't say the actual words "fuck off". Apparently he disregarded the officer's request and said "this is bullshit".

It was bullshit.

Sorry ....your world of policing is we should just shut up and say Yes Massah when a cop says something.

I hope you get pulled over one day and the cop searches your whole vehicle while you sit on the side of the road in cuffs...... wiat if you are white that will most likely not happen but happened twice to two friends.

WHen they were done, they uncuffed them and said watch your speed and left.

WTF?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Traffic stops should never lead to death when someone is unarmed or has not committed even a felony. I will go and say 1 is too many but I certainly can list several and we should not just limit it to traffic stops. The lists is growing and let us not just include death but those who were tased or dragged into the police station for things others would just get a ticket or warning.

People do not like anecdotal evidence but when you speak to many many Black people talk about their experience when they get pulled over they are treated far different than I or other people who are white have explained, be at day or night.

You can choose to downplay it but every time my Black friends, and one is 3rd highest position in huge publicly traded company, they tell me the fear and interactions they have had. Those never get reported.

I wish there was some way to determine if this is actually true, or just urban legend. Is the experience on a simple traffic stop really different if all things are equal other than skin color? That is the real question and no doubt in some cases it's the skin color alone, but how many, how often? It is easy to assume some attitude being displayed leads to a different experience, but that is an assumption. We're left to take their word for it, and that really is the root of it all. Who do you trust is telling the truth, and considering human nature is to magnify or minimize depending on ones own agenda, we're left with nothing but our own anecdotal stories and experiences. With that we can only have an expectation of thorough investgation and equal justice applied, cop or no cop, and that is where the system has failed "way too often". What's way too often? Once. I'm not sure anyone is claiming blacks don't have a legit beef here, certainly not me, but this broad brush, you're all racists and therefore guilty as the bad cop and deserving of punishment is bullshit. Hold the ones committing the crimes accountable. The rest of us are just trying to go about our own business

 

[xporn_star]

Tsing Tao
Your posts are very factual. I want to personally thank you for being so honest. I wish more people here would follow your example.
Just some additional info for some of the others whi endorse fake outrage, fake compassion, and fake,racism. Only 6-7% of all the slaves involved in the Trans Atlantic slave trade came to what is now the U.S. the rest went to the Caribbean and South America.
White men didnt hunt down blacks in Africa and capture them with nets, they were sold or traded by other Africans who also engaged in slavery. Virtually every culture and ethnicity were victims of slavery at one time or another including Greeks, Romans, Slavics, Jews, Vikings, Christians, Spanish, and basically everyone else, not just blacks.

 

[El OchoCinco]

OH SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc8_015.htm
831.332 Drivers’ Responsibilities
Drivers must:

1. Drive safely and defensively.
2. Practice personal safety.
3. Obey all state and local traffic laws and Postal Service driving policies.
4. Extend courtesy in all situations.
5. Not use a cell phone while driving. Drivers must pull off the road to a safe location before using the phone.
   
   
   
   The USPS Employee Safety Guide states employees will "receive no special privileges or rights as a postal driver."

 

[El OchoCinco]

I wish there was some way to determine if this is actually true, or just urban legend. Is the experience on a simple traffic stop really different if all things are equal other than skin color? That is the real question and no doubt in some cases it's the skin color alone, but how many, how often? It is easy to assume some attitude being displayed leads to a different experience, but that is an assumption. We're left to take their word for it, and that really is the root of it all. Who do you trust is telling the truth, and considering human nature is to magnify or minimize depending on ones own agenda, we're left with nothing but our own anecdotal stories and experiences. With that we can only have an expectation of thorough investgation and equal justice applied, cop or no cop, and that is where the system has failed "way too often". What's way too often? Once. I'm not sure anyone is claiming blacks don't have a legit beef here, certainly not me, but this broad brush, you're all racists and therefore guilty as the bad cop and deserving of punishment is bullshit. Hold the ones committing the crimes accountable. The rest of us are just trying to go about our own business

No one is painting a broad brush but when anyone complains you all get together and say it does not happen all the time or it is not all cops...but the times it is happening does not bother you?

WTF.....do you hear how that response sounds?

Let me use other words.

Claim: At college frat parties, a lot of women are getting sexually assaulted

Response: Not all frat guys are rapists, statistically more women are NOT assaulted in frat houses

That is what gets people upset. They are complaining about an action that is ongoing and people rush to defend the whole system. How about let's address the % that is committing the overpolicing and racial profiling and excessive force and spend that energy rather than trying to sweep it under the rug.

 

[Tsing Tao]

OH SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc8_015.htm
831.332 Drivers’ Responsibilities
Drivers must:

1. Drive safely and defensively.
2. Practice personal safety.
3. Obey all state and local traffic laws and Postal Service driving policies.
4. Extend courtesy in all situations.
5. Not use a cell phone while driving. Drivers must pull off the road to a safe location before using the phone.
   
   
   
   The USPS Employee Safety Guide states employees will "receive no special privileges or rights as a postal driver."

The postal service requires its drivers to follow local laws. But it is immune to local and state laws. This is clearly what the officer was referring to when he said that.

SNAP yourself:

However, while the drivers themselves can be cited for violations, the United States Postal Service, as a federal agency, has immunity from local laws. This has created an interesting situation for infractions that are commonly issued to the registered owner of a vehicle rather than a driver, including parking tickets and photo enforcement. Often the driver isn’t present for a parking ticket, so the ticket is associated with the car and it’s owner. And when a traffic camera captures a violation, the notice of infraction is sent to the registered owner of the vehicle. The city of East Cleveland found that when they submitted traffic violations made by USPS drivers captured on camera, they went unpaid.

As reported by a Cleveland journalist, a lawyer for the Postal Service responded to the city, “In providing mail service across the country, the Postal Service attempts to work within local and state laws and regulations . . . However, as you are probably aware, the Postal Service enjoys federal immunity from state and local regulation . . . The Postal Service requires its employees to obey all traffic laws and rules while operating Postal Service vehicles. However, the state and/or local ordinances imposing penalties and fines cannot be enforced as against the Postal Service.”​

 

[Tsing Tao]

It was bullshit.

Sorry ....your world of policing is we should just shut up and say Yes Massah when a cop says something.

I hope you get pulled over one day and the cop searches your whole vehicle while you sit on the side of the road in cuffs...... wiat if you are white that will most likely not happen but happened twice to two friends.

WHen they were done, they uncuffed them and said watch your speed and left.

WTF?

No, in my world of policing we should do what the police officer expects of us, especially if it is required in law (produce driver's license at traffic stop or parking violation).

 

[El OchoCinco]

The postal service requires its drivers to follow local laws. But it is immune to local and state laws. This is clearly what the officer was referring to when he said that.

SNAP yourself:

However, while the drivers themselves can be cited for violations, the United States Postal Service, as a federal agency, has immunity from local laws. This has created an interesting situation for infractions that are commonly issued to the registered owner of a vehicle rather than a driver, including parking tickets and photo enforcement. Often the driver isn’t present for a parking ticket, so the ticket is associated with the car and it’s owner. And when a traffic camera captures a violation, the notice of infraction is sent to the registered owner of the vehicle. The city of East Cleveland found that when they submitted traffic violations made by USPS drivers captured on camera, they went unpaid.

As reported by a Cleveland journalist, a lawyer for the Postal Service responded to the city, “In providing mail service across the country, the Postal Service attempts to work within local and state laws and regulations . . . However, as you are probably aware, the Postal Service enjoys federal immunity from state and local regulation . . . The Postal Service requires its employees to obey all traffic laws and rules while operating Postal Service vehicles. However, the state and/or local ordinances imposing penalties and fines cannot be enforced as against the Postal Service.”​

They can claim immunity for paying the fines but they are still subject to the rules. They cannot go through red lights or park illegally. Drivers who get tickets still get reprimanded and could get fired.

WTF are you talking about? Just because they do not have to pay the fines means they can break the law?

According to Tsing a postal driver can drive down a 1 way street, go through a stop sign and park on the wrong side of the road...

I know you are smarter than that....

 

[Tsing Tao]

They can claim immunity for paying the fines but they are still subject to the rules. They cannot go through red lights or park illegally. Drivers who get tickets still get reprimanded and could get fired.

WTF are you talking about? Just because they do not have to pay the fines means they can break the law?

According to Tsing a postal driver can drive down a 1 way street, go through a stop sign and park on the wrong side of the road...

I know you are smarter than that....

I gave you the official, legal response from the United States Post Office. If you would like to discount it or continue discussing whether the police can arrest a postal driver for parking on the wrong side of the road, I invite you to begin a new thread. It has nothing to do with this one.

 

[El OchoCinco]

I gave you the official, legal response from the United States Post Office. If you would like to discount it or continue discussing whether the police can arrest a postal driver for parking on the wrong side of the road, I invite you to begin a new thread. It has nothing to do with this one.

Arrest? So you admit the Black guy was being arrested for parking on the side of the road? Seems excessive no?