Quote from ryanmitcho:
you are one dumb shit if you think that i am wrong in supporting bush's efforts to eradicate terrorism. how will your left wing liberal ass like it when you are breathing toxic nerve gas or getting bombed because you are too much of a pussy to take action? to simplify it for you, imagine you are in a dark alley and a man wants to beat you, you have nowhere to run to. do you fight or get your ass kicked?? i know i would use my training to fuck that guy up- if its me or someone else, they are going down. its the same thing with terrorism and the threat to our country- these guys will not back down until we put them down. i dont care about your pansy argument of "its morally wrong to go to war" they attacked us first- was that "morally acceptable'? hell no. read your history chump, many wars have been fought to protect a country's way of life and to defend against threats- this one is no different in that respect. as an american you should support our troops that are fighting to save your sorry ass from attack, not bash them and those who support them.
and rod shaft- what kind of gay name is that??? i bet you get shafted alot.....
Ryanmitcho, your stupidity and ignorance astounds me. First of all, let me explain why I feel this war is wrongâ¦
1. After 9/11, Bush promised retribution against its perpetrators (justifiably so). With Osama still at large, it strikes me that his primary motivation for pursuing war against Iraq is to convince the American public that he has eradicated the problem by simply delivering the head of a different Islamic supervillain (who many people mistakenly believe to be one and the same thanks to his propaganda and fear-mongering). Donât get me wrong, Saddamâs likely a complete prick whoâs been oppressing his people, but there is no evidence to suggest that he had any involvement in 9/11 whatsoever. There also lies a strong possibility that personal motives exist as a result of his fatherâs presidential term.
2. Diplomatically, Bushâs primary argument to the world in favor of war was that Iraq has violated U.N. weapons resolutions on numerous occasions. After presenting his case to the U.N., a strong majority decided that the evidence presented was not enough to justify a war. In the end, Dubya decided that although Iraq must be held accountable to U.N. decisions, his government is above them. I must admit though, itâs hard to for me to gauge how much of a threat Iraq really is without having access to classified U.S. intelligence. None of us really know the full story and we can only speculate (which most of us do for living anyway) based on the information weâve been given. But the evidence presented to the U.N. and the rest of the public was questionable at best and we have basically been told to blindly believe that this regime is an immediate danger to America and the rest of Western civilization. I myself am very skeptical as to whether this is actually true. I also donât feel that enough effort was put into resolving this issue diplomatically (but Bush probably never had any plans of going that route in the first place).
3. Defeating the Iraqi military likely wonât take long at all. Itâs an outright mismatch from a military perspective. But the long term effects could be much more significant. Negative feelings towards the U.S. are already quite high in the Middle East and in many other parts of the world. The more that the U.S. government goes sticking its nose where it doesnât belong (which most of the world feels it is currently doing) the more prevalent these sentiments will become. Think of the generation of kids who have nothing in the Middle East who will grow up despising the U.S. Some of them will eventually aspire to commit terrorist attacks against the U.S. If you really want to stop terrorism, attack the root of the problem. Donât kid yourself; violence will just beget more violence, one way or another. Certainly, if there were a situation where the U.S. was legitimately being threatened, there would be just cause for war. This war isnât though, itâs a waste of life and money and it will needlessly cause more hate and intolerance.
As for you Ryanmitcho, you clearly have some deep-rooted personal issues to work out. You really seem to have passionately bought into this us vs. them, âgoodâ vs. âevilâ mentality. Maybe you should go watch Red Dawn or Rocky 4 instead of promoting all this ignorance, intolerance and hostility. And what's with this left wing/right wing shit? It's so stupid, there's way more than two different sets of views a person could have. But I'm going to assume that you're on team "right". It's too bad that your own country is infested with all these "evil" people who threaten your way of life. Your life must be tough with all these ememies you have both domestically and abroad.
You also assume I donât support the coalition troops. This is not the case at all. I hope that as casualties are as low as possible on both sides and this war ends as soon as possible. I even hope the U.S. wins. I just think this war is unnecessary. You might think its âpansyâ, but I want to live in a peaceful world. Peace isnât âgayâ.