Exactly how stupid is Bush??

Quote from bungrider:

probably. when he spoke earlier today (and took us to new lows -- thanks, dubya!! :D ) he made some smart ass remark about how lucky people are here to be able to protest against the war...

i really resent the fact that he acts like whatever freedoms we americans have are only through his good graces...

i'm sure him and ashcroft will do whatever it takes to keep restricting american freedoms...

he is so arrogant it makes me want to puke...i don't understand how someone who has achieved so little can act like he has done so much...he couldn't even get into college without his parents help...

what has he done?? pissed away a bunch of $$ in the desert, never found any WMD (thus the shift from anti-WMD to iraqi freedom), and ruined our economy...SO CLAP YOUR HANDS!!!

blows my mind that anyone can be stupid enough to cheer him on...SO CLAP YOUR HANDS!!
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DITTO!

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Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I see Saddam is not the only person underestimating our President. I doubt he cares. He no doubt remembers how the left always underestimated our greatest President of the last two centuries, Ronald Reagan. He was so dumb he defeated world communism, won the Cold War, rescued our economy, cut our taxes, remade our judiciary, got us started on an effective missile defense system and restored people's pride in their country.

But he wasn't a deep thinker like Barbra Streisand.
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AAA.....Well,Well said.....

bung....You're incredibly off base....

BSAM
 
Quote from AMT4SWA:

Hey Bungrider,

Remember who the president was in March of 2000 when the market started to tank? Remember the taxpayer dollars the Justice Dept was pissing away that month going after Microsoft? Do you remember who the president was that month, as his Fed buddy raised interest rates again for the seventh consecutive time a lovely 50 basis points? I think it was the same president that sat by getting blown by his intern while the money supply tripled from 1992 to 2000.....what do you call that, the pump and dump?

Who was the president in the late 70's when all this middle east turmoil started as we let the Iranian fundamentalists hold American citizens for 444 days? Wow, what a strong message we signaled to the world those embarrassing 444 days in the late 70's.

This is all by far the actions of some of the dumbest presidents EVER!
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Thank you!! FINALLY someone firing back with some live ammo, instead of the repetitive anti-liberal stuff that we're getting tired of...

Saying that the bear market started in 2000 because of Clinton isn't a very good argument, since I can show you strong growth for nearly every other year from 92-00, making a stronger case for Clinton being an underlying factor in a bull market rather than a bear market.

So let's put that aside and think about the underlying state of the economy...

I think the interesting thing about the market from 92-00 compared to now is what the underlying factors driving its performance happen to be. 92-00 was a period of rapid growth; 00-present has been shrinkage and stagnation, despite money being practically free.

So why are the economic numbers so terrible since 2000? Let's ignore the S&P overall performance in light of the bubble, and focus on the difference between the 1996 economy and the 2002 economy.
 
Quote from bungrider:



Thank you!! FINALLY someone firing back with some live ammo, instead of the repetitive anti-liberal stuff that we're getting tired of...

Saying that the bear market started in 2000 because of Clinton isn't a very good argument, since I can show you strong growth for nearly every other year from 92-00, making a stronger case for Clinton being an underlying factor in a bull market rather than a bear market.

So let's put that aside and think about the underlying state of the economy...

I think the interesting thing about the market from 92-00 compared to now is what the underlying factors driving its performance happen to be. 92-00 was a period of rapid growth; 00-present has been shrinkage and stagnation, despite money being practically free.

So why are the economic numbers so terrible since 2000? Let's ignore the S&P overall performance in light of the bubble, and focus on the difference between the 1996 economy and the 2002 economy.
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Tell me if I've got this right: You're one of those extremely un-stupid people who believes that a President runs the economy, and that economic cycles directly correspond to terms in office?

From the perspective of economic cycles, Clinton was very lucky. He did a pretty good job, all things considered, of not messing things up too badly while he was in office - and that IS saying something. The heavy lifting was done one when downsizing, re-tooling, and other factors in the late 80s temporarily caused a spike in unemployment, and a decrease in revenues, and deepened the recession that was already ending by the time that Clinton took office.

Objectively, I don't credit Bush 41, or Clinton either with the '90s boom. Nor, in my opinion, can you credit Reagan with the secular bull market of which the mania market was the climax, though Clinton and Reagan were both good cheerleaders, while Bush 41 and Jimmy Carter were terrible ones. It's not an entirely insignificant role, as consumer and investor confidence do count. Bush 43 has had other priorities - but has correctly determined that confidence is not going to rebound while people are worrying about the next spectacular terrorist attack. If the economy rebounds, amidst success in the war on terrorism, then he'll deserve some credit for having helped prevent external threats from pushing us over the brink.
 
Quote from KymarFye:



Tell me if I've got this right: You're one of those extremely un-stupid people who believes that a President runs the economy, and that economic cycles directly correspond to terms in office?

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In reality it doesnt....but when it comes to votes it most certainly does.....peace
 
Quote from KymarFye:



Right - but the "smart" people all thought the arms race would spin out of control, even if we didn't blow ourselves up first. Stupid ol' Reagan and his people thought you had to stand up to the Soviets. He did. They caved. Not only did the arms not spin out of control - the Soviets withdrew their missiles.
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Kye, I never said nor subscribed to the idea that Reagan and Bush are stupid. Just the contrary. Cream rises to the top.
 
to already GUARANTEED himself re-election! That's a neat trick for this being 4/03, and the election 1 1/2 years away.

He won the Texas Governers race as well. Face it, he's a great person and president, whose a WINNER !!

I thank my lucky stars everyday for the 2000 election result.
 
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to already GUARANTEED himself re-election! That's a neat trick for this being 4/03, and the election 1 1/2 years away.

He won the Texas Governers race as well. Face it, he's a great person and president, whose a WINNER !!

I thank my lucky stars everyday for the 2000 election result.
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u better not forget to thank FLORIDA.......:D
 
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