Exactly how smart is Bush?

SchattenjÃ¤ger · Apr 20, 2003

... can be tampered with as well. ANY system can be tampered with - and WILL be tampered with, if the stakes are high enough.

Nobody's honest anymore. "It's not how you play the game, it's if you win or lose...."

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/index.php

"The ends justify the means" is something I'm hearing an awful lot recently.

dgabriel · Apr 20, 2003

Quote from marketsurfer:

why not allow everyone to vote either via the internet or telephone ?? technology exists that could eliminate fraud in this endeavour, then we could eliminate the electoral college. any thoughts ??

best,

surfer

Take a vote on it.

Jesse J. · Apr 20, 2003

is it me, or is this moderator dgabriel the most unfunny person here.

His wit is shi*.

The electoral college will NEVER go away, because its protecting the "small states", and you need 30 of these states to vote the system away.

Since the small states are the ones who need the electoral voting the most, they won't vote it away. Duhhh.

pretty easy to understand.

hapaboy · Apr 20, 2003

Quote from Jesse J.:

is it me, or is this moderator dgabriel the most unfunny person here.

His wit is shi*.

ROFL!

dGAB is at it again, making friends and influencing people in his own inimitable way.

tampa · Apr 20, 2003

Quote from hapaboy:

ROFL!

dGAB is at it again, making friends and influencing people in his own inimitable way.

ahhh, could maybe you provide a reason or two why he should want to make friends with, or influence you and your ilk?

alfonso · Apr 21, 2003

Quote from Babak:

Which reminds me....

There is a certain man named Paul Desmarais, the head of one of the richest families in Canada. He sits on the Board of Paribas, Vivendi, as well as Total. He also owns a significant chunk of Total.

This man's son, is married to a woman who happens to be the daughter of Jean Chretien. Who in turn happens to be the Prime Minister of Canada.

Does that explain why Canada sat out the war?

Ok Babak, let's assume you're right.

Do you care to apply a similar kind of logic to US administration for why they chose to prosecute this war? You know, the connections are far more plentiful and the logic far less convoluted.

That you seem to believe the Canadian example but not the US one "speaks volumes", as Kymar would say, about your bias.

hapaboy · Apr 21, 2003

Quote from tampa:

ahhh, could maybe you provide a reason or two why he should want to make friends with, or influence you and your ilk?

ahhhhhh, no.

But you're missing the point, Tampa. Then again, you miss most points.

Don't get upset and start swearing now. Then dGAB would have to jump in and swear too, and then he'd get moderated by another moderator. LOL!

Jesse J. · Apr 21, 2003

so many "handles" who know so little about the real world. Its no wonder these same people complain so much.

What was that phrase Jim Carrey used in Ace Ventura?

LongShot · Apr 21, 2003

Quote from Jesse J.:

so many "handles" who know so little about the real world. Its no wonder these same people complain so much.

What was that phrase Jim Carrey used in Ace Ventura?

was it ..........."CABLE MAN!!"

Jesse J. · Apr 21, 2003

it was from ace ventura, at the end of the movie.