Ex-Bear Stearns Fund Managers Arrested by FBI Agents
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"Bear Stearns Defendants Showed Disregard for E-Mail Risks"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFCLTwIuFqM4&refer=home
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFCLTwIuFqM4&refer=home
There are plenty of guys who do it right. Who knows the percentage that do it wrong.
What I do know is, there are many managers who cannot compete because they don't cheat. No way, if you play fair, you can keep up. But, these guys are great sources for us, because the authorities are asking questions, and the good guys are very happy to comply.
`Fear' E-Mail
The indictments brought to light e-mail conversations that allegedly took place between the two men and others about the health of the funds, including a March 15, 2007, message from Cioffi to a team economist with the subject line ``Fear.''
``As we discussed it may not be a meltdown for the general economy but in our world it will be,'' the indictment quotes Cioffi as writing. ``Wall Street will be hammered with lawsuits. Dealers will lose millions and the CDO business will not be the same for years.''
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Cioffi acknowledged in a private e-mail that certain types of CDOs, which included subprime debt rated AAA or AA, were ``not really AAA'' because they were subject to heightened risk of defaults, according to the indictment.
The indictments brought to light e-mail conversations that allegedly took place between the two men and others about the health of the funds, including a March 15, 2007, message from Cioffi to a team economist with the subject line ``Fear.''
``As we discussed it may not be a meltdown for the general economy but in our world it will be,'' the indictment quotes Cioffi as writing. ``Wall Street will be hammered with lawsuits. Dealers will lose millions and the CDO business will not be the same for years.''
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Cioffi acknowledged in a private e-mail that certain types of CDOs, which included subprime debt rated AAA or AA, were ``not really AAA'' because they were subject to heightened risk of defaults, according to the indictment.
Quote from ASusilovic:
`Fear' E-Mail
The indictments brought to light e-mail conversations that allegedly took place between the two men and others about the health of the funds, including a March 15, 2007, message from Cioffi to a team economist with the subject line ``Fear.''
``As we discussed it may not be a meltdown for the general economy but in our world it will be,'' the indictment quotes Cioffi as writing. ``Wall Street will be hammered with lawsuits. Dealers will lose millions and the CDO business will not be the same for years.''
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Cioffi acknowledged in a private e-mail that certain types of CDOs, which included subprime debt rated AAA or AA, were ``not really AAA'' because they were subject to heightened risk of defaults, according to the indictment.
So, wouldn't a top notch hedgie shorted that paper, knowing the eventual downgrade would pay them in spades? They just painted themselves in a corner they could not have gotten out of.
I'd love to see the emails at Goldman Sachs during this period also.
Something like this.... "As we discussed it may not be a meltdown for the general economy but in our world it will be. Wall Street will be hammered with lawsuits. Dealers will lose millions and the CDO business will not be the same for years. I recommend we keep selling the CDOs but also short the ABX index. This way we have a win-win".
more fresh meats for the bros.
