Ewj: elliott wave

Edit- thx Mup, was looking for a longer time view. Had to close out shorts today. Reversal spooked me. My counts look bad, thx for your view. Really appreciate it
 
So the "M" pattern confirmation was a real Bear Cub Trap of 240, 27, 45 points :cool: .
The Bull's Doonday Sell Signal Line was good even after more than 200, 20, 40 points drop :) .
Fratals have some predictive powers :D .
If so there may be a Bigger "M" pattern :confused: .
Quote from mu200411:02-12-09 12:33 AM

The Spike Fractals had turned into "M" Fractals :) .
There may be a bigger "M" following the big "M" :D .
The big "M" confirmation may turn into a Bear TraP :eek: .

This was a 7 points and 70 minutes too early warning :( .
Quote from mu200411:02-13-09 01:48 AM

Not a typical 1-2-3-4-5-a-b-c :( .
If it is, there may be another 1-2-3-4-5 UP :) .
 

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Mup if you get a second tomorrow.

Im trying to get my waves right with all of this congestion. I made a triangle but I did not include the decline from 1/7 - 1/21. So mine is much smaller than yours and not as well done. Admittedly Im such a noob, all I am working off of is the triangles described in Frost/Prechter. What I am trying to do, is get that sell signal faster. In mine if SPX does not close over 870-873 in next run, it tells me to sell. Yours I would have much more room. Am I wrong to leave out that strong leg down? With it out a close higher would make it an expanding triangle with higher lows and back to the drawing board I go.
 
ammo,
After "M" (Moribund) or "W" (Wealth) pattern confirmation (Neckline-like crossing) the Market will continue about 50 -100% of the move before the confirmation. Previous support or resistance level may have some influence.
Trader may trade the "Double Top Pattern" or "Double Bottom Pattern" by using the last supporting or resistance trendline as a trigger for a Sell or Buy Signal.
Trading the confirmation sometimes may be too late.
The last "M" pattern confirmation was a failure or a Bear Trap, because the pull back was too big.
mu.
http://thepatternsite.com/bigm.html
Quote from ammo:02-13-09 09:23 AM

mu one more time please,when we finish an m or a w, we retrace 61% of last leg?
 
Hi Illum, can you post a chart so I can get a clearer idea of where your coming from..... :)

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One for ammo :)

You often get strongest moves an 88.6% when dealing with those W/M patterns... :)

120min Globex..
 

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May as well include what the bears are seeing.... They be hoping this move of that 88.6% is a wave 2 of an elongated (c)....
Most EW'ers will be seeing this or a 1,2,i,ii.. therefor its my alternative count for the moment....:))

As we've bounced back to the 50% & that old Gann 50 to 50 rule might come into play... (lesser 50% is around 823)


240min globex...
 

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Quote from Mup:
As we've bounced back to the 50% & that old Gann 50 to 50 rule might come into play... (lesser 50% is around 823)...

We're back to that key lesser 50% area ....the bulls need to make a stand around these levels otherwise the bears have control for a (delta inverson) break down...

Its quite useful that gann, "as above so below" rule....

120min Globex
 

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