Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

[bwolinsky]

Quote from jem:

have they found any evidence of this pan spermia? I have been suggesting some biologists have said that life must have come from outerspace because there was not enough time for it to have evolved from earth... but Stu did not like that suggestion... he seemed to be insisting he knew it evolved here on earth.

As far as pam spermia I don't know. I don't believe life could survive in outerspace but hydrogen crystalls frozen as water sure could. You get some hydrogen mixed with oxygen and there's plenty of evidence that that is where our water supplies came from. Everything had to be external, but life didn't have to be.

Really, watch the lecture, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BWolinsky?feature=mhee#p/c/08EF19FC8C3D9F13/0/cEyqT2_ricA

In the lecture he talks about how the universe is one giant torsion field, and how if you take some sand, silicon dioxide, diluted water and heat it to exactly 1000 degrees amino acids start to form and we've started classifying unicellular organism into somewhere between 20 and 35 different primary types of organisms.

These organisms exist anywhere there is water, and in high heat areas. It's not that life as a single cellular organism came and landed on this planet, but the water from Earth's early years and the cataclysmic start with planetoids colliding with each other bring water to the earth. It is probably water that starts it. But the theory is not pam spermia in the sense that life literally came from space, but we've done experiments creating inanimate matter in a vaccumm and heat basic elements like water, silicon, some other elements that I forget, and you get single celled amino acids when you heat this mixture in a hyperbaric vaccumm like environment heating it to exactly 1000 degrees.

These experiments show new types of creatures being created under an exact set of circumstances. This process exists everywhere there is water and anywhere there is a water cycle. Oxygen is not necessarily required but through evaporation oxygen eventually disapates and this is how life was formed.

As far as this process going on anywhere other than earth, absolutely. I'm sure there are trillions of impacts by comets on essentially stone planets leaving the water they had and spreading it into estuaries.

 

[bwolinsky]

While I'm on it, as an interplanetary investment advisor I suggest hydrolscyzing Martian Polar Ice Caps. By separating hydrogen from oxygen you can create an atmosphere, and I think it is pretty obvious that even if we can't do it on a grand scale, we can produce oxygen from those ice caps. All you have to do is separate the water and you get a huge chunk of martian ice introduce an electrical current and get ozone and h2o vapor.

This will allow us to terraform planets as long as they have pre-existing polar ice caps. We will probably spend a few minutes on the surface of that planet and most likely at the very least find trilobytes. If we don't find anything there I'm sure it wouldn't surprise anybody, but the fact that there are plenty of global climate simulations that have the earth heating unstoppably becoming a planet essentially like mars. There's plenty of gloom and doom, and it's not going to happen in this lifetime or the next, but at some point we'll have to deal with our origins.

I think as soon as we have jumpgate craft that run on teleporters we won't have to worry about things like rocket fuel. All you have to do is create time travel and teleportation to do this. If you can in the exact sense of the world travel as a concious organism to another place and time and space, you have your pandoras box ready to pick yourself up at a point in your life when you are healthy. That way all you have to do to get into heaven is actually to solve the time travellers paradox. There's a few moments after you disappear with your travelling body, or some other beings body where <b>all hell breaks loose</b> But at least you get to be transported from your younger body to a future time where reality exists in the correct time displacement.

It is the fundamental unit of space time geometries called a minusmillisecond, and it is a unit that presupposes that electrons can be transported between two different places in the future and in the past. What little we know about how this works with humans versus electrons has clearly been solved by the visitors to this planet. That much is obvious. Believe me, you hear people talk about abductions and it is actually the time travellers paradox that they're experiencing, and concious though they are through the whole thing they eventually "wake up" usually back in their beds, but what really happened was you were abducted and taken into another planet or place. They pick you up and do you the favor of saving you from another horrendous lifetime on this planet probably for something better. The reason nobody can remember is because these abductions exist in a parralell reality created by the time travellers themselves. You are not aware of yourself because you are in an alternate reality. Do not fear, because this is the only way to live forever and I think it is very noble of them to do this. It's also a bit like where there is a divergence between religion and science because I don't have any problem claiming that there are UFO's out there, I just happen to think it's peaceful and clearly throughout history this is what has happened. As soon as two and a half lifetimes have passed and any concious being who was alive when they were abducted ends the time travellers paradox and does not destroy the universe. Really as long as twice a lifetime has passed it's still probably OK, but just to be on the safe side add another half a lifetime, say 50 years.

I'm already convinced this is where religions mix faith and science completely wrong. It is obvious our alien friends have solved the problems of transporting life across intergalactic distances, and that <b>is time travel. So they must have it, and anyone who has ever had this experience should read this and understand that this is what is really going on.</b> Have faith, and this is what will happen to you, too. The fear about an advanced superior race invading our territories has probably happened at a few points in the past, but if they were really hostile no one would wake up with visions of being naked and communicated by telepathically with some sort of feminine voice.

I already know I've opened a pandora's box just by explaining the pandora's box, but if you have or know any being that has the ability to teleport and time travel in the physcial sense of the word, then everybody should now understand that feeling that's a cross between deja vu and having done something very important.

<B>PANDORA</b>

 

[athlonmank8]

Quote from bwolinsky:

When it comes to proving or disproving God does or does not exist, I always come back to Pascal's wager that it is better to be deceived than suffer the consequences of being wrong.

 

[stu]

Quote from Lucrum:
Mission Accomplished!

You mean like this

 

[stu]

Quote from jem:
Oh you figured it out Stu. ..
now explain how a rational person could make this quote..

"Some people have the ability and strength to understand that a higher power called GOD, doesn't exist, and can view the world through a lens that Nature has given us. Other people can't."

show us some fact which gives you the ability or strength to understand a higher power called GOD does not exist.

Any proof will do.

Religion hence No proof will do.

Quote from jem:
have they found any evidence of this pan spermia? I have been suggesting some biologists have said that life must have come from outerspace because there was not enough time for it to have evolved from earth... but Stu did not like that suggestion... he seemed to be insisting he knew it evolved here on earth.

...which just goes to show even now after all theses pages, how utterly determined you remain not to understand or comprehend anything.
Panspermia is an element of abiogenesis, so how exactly is life existing throughout the universe, reaching earth as bacteria in meteorites, going to evade any of your irrational denials either?

Quote from jem:
you are still doing it stu.
putting "actually" in front of your statement changes nothing.

Your statement was contrary to scientific fact. Contrasting it to the same statement with "actually" in front of it... does not change the crackpot nature of your statement.

a. There is plenty of science showing Stu is a troll.
b. There is actually plenty of science showing stu is a troll.

Conclusion.. there is "actually" no difference for the purposes of our discussion.

That's right , it changes nothing. My statement is still true.
Whereas you inserting words like "evolved" into it, is not.

Your problem is because of what has been proven and the research, there IS plenty of science to show how life can come from non life.
Just because you and other ET Creationists can't handle that fact, won't make the science go away.

 

[acronym]

Quote from jem:

Oh you figured it out Stu. ..

now explain how a rational person could make this quote..

"Some people have the ability and strength to understand that a higher power called GOD, doesn't exist, and can view the world through a lens that Nature has given us. Other people can't."

show us some fact which gives you the ability or strength to understand a higher power called GOD does not exist.

Any proof will do.

Jem, folk like me, believe nature itself is god, such as it is, rather than a book, or words, or a dictum on how to be alive, it is simply as it is, with no words written or spoken by anyone about how it should end up.

It will be, what it is, no matter what. And no hope, no book, no faith in prophets, a book, or prayer, will change anything.
There is no heaven. Their is Earth, and life. That's it.

I was dead. There's nothing there, dude. The idea, that, because you believed a different thing, BEFORE you died, means you walk in the kingdom of heaven, is brainwashed fantasy.

 

[RickTheMan]

Quote from acronym:

Jem, folk like me, believe nature itself is god, such as it is, rather than a book, or words, or a dictum on how to be alive, it is simply as it is, with no words written or spoken by anyone about how it should end up.

It will be, what it is, no matter what. And no hope, no book, no faith in prophets, a book, or prayer, will change anything.
There is no heaven. Their is Earth, and life. That's it.

I was dead. There's nothing there, dude. The idea, that, because you believed a different thing, BEFORE you died, means you walk in the kingdom of heaven, is brainwashed fantasy.

What you described just now is basically the core belief of Paganism. Pagans existed in nature and celebrated it and treated it with respect.

Christians, well, the Abrahamic religions and whatnot in general, consider themselves to be outside of, or above nature, since a real nice guy (supposedly) was nail to the cross, and we're supposed to worship a guy who willingly let himself .... well, you know the story.

Nature is the end-all-be-all. The Bible is a human creation.

 

[Trader666]

This from the STUpid troll who's proven he knows less about science than many gradeschoolers do

Quote from STUpid:

... science... scientific...scientifically... science...
... science ... science...

 

[stu]

• Your brain farts.
  
  You grab a photo of yourself.
  
  You photoshop it.
  
  You add some text.
  
  You post it on ET.
  
  ..again and again and again....

it's ok, relax, I get it.

 

[Trader666]

Each showcases your STUpidity in a unique way with different quotes of yours.

Here's the last one, improved with context, to show you're even STUpider than previously portrayed

Quote from STUpid:
Edited for accuracy:
My brain farts.

Added to photo of myself.

Now I get it.