Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

[Betapeg]

Quote from Free Thinker:

i admire your patience but you cant win with jem. i have debated him for years. he is intelligent enough to understand but he has a deep seated need to believe. that need causes him to only be interested in science in as far as he can find a gap to place his god. any and all knowledge that would falsify his god is willfully ignored.

It's become a circular debate. I post experimental data. The response is to post philosophical quotes from a Nobel Prize winner and arbitrarily dismiss any experimental evidence provided as "not a pathway to life". I explain we haven't found such a pathway yet but experimental data shows some of the steps involved in such a pathway. This evidence proves that such a pathway exists. The response is to defer again to philosophical quotes by a Nobel Prize winner and another outright dismissal of any and all evidence in regards to abiogenesis.

I would honestly rather agree to disagree than continue like that.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Wow, almost 20,000 views so far for this thread.


Baron...where's my check?

 

[Betapeg]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Wow, almost 20,000 views so far for this thread.

Baron...where's my check?

You want to make an uber long thread? Make it about naturalism versus theism.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from stu:

When talking to creationists like yourself...

For the umpteenth time I'm not a creationist per se stuPID, I'm a skeptic. NOT everyone with questions of questionable theories is automatically a bible thumping evangelist moron.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Betapeg:

It's become a circular debate. I post experimental data. The response is to post philosophical quotes from a Nobel Prize winner and arbitrarily dismiss any experimental evidence provided as "not a pathway to life". I explain we haven't found such a pathway yet but experimental data shows some of the steps involved in such a pathway. This evidence proves that such a pathway exists. The response is to defer again to philosophical quotes by a Nobel Prize winner and another outright dismissal of any and all evidence in regards to abiogenesis.

I would honestly rather agree to disagree than continue like that.

i know. as a long time skeptic i can tell you that is standard operating procedure.
the bible thumper will say to the skeptic "yea prove it". the skeptic will spend hours lining up the evidence and it will be rejected out of hand unread with a "the bible says......"

 

[jem]

Quote from Betapeg:

Philosophical musings by someone who happens to have a Nobel Prize is nothing compared to hard experimental data which I posted for you which show some of the steps involved in an abiogenesis process.

he is the expert in the field.

 

[jem]

Quote from Betapeg:

It's become a circular debate. I post experimental data. The response is to post philosophical quotes from a Nobel Prize winner and arbitrarily dismiss any experimental evidence provided as "not a pathway to life". I explain we haven't found such a pathway yet but experimental data shows some of the steps involved in such a pathway. This evidence proves that such a pathway exists. The response is to defer again to philosophical quotes by a Nobel Prize winner and another outright dismissal of any and all evidence in regards to abiogenesis.

I would honestly rather agree to disagree than continue like that.

you wish to agree to disagree as you take a parting shot. That is a bit passive aggressive. Calling the unequivocal statement from the expert in the field simply a philosophical quote... is something that until now only stu would do. Is evolution only a philosophy?


At some point when the expert says there is no complete plausible pathway... a logical person defers to that opinion unless they post "recent" contrary info.

You have posted nothing that shows non life becoming life. so why you keep insisting that there is proof of abiogenesis is nothing short of really odd.

But... I too no longer care... so here is my passive aggressive shot...
I can bring et atheist to science... but I can't make him drink.

 

[jem]

Quote from Free Thinker:

i admire your patience but you cant win with jem. i have debated him for years. he is intelligent enough to understand but he has a deep seated need to believe. that need causes him to only be interested in science in as far as he can find a gap to place his god. any and all knowledge that would falsify his god is willfully ignored.

this is another atheist.... who can't make a truthful argument.

I keep telling them that evolution is not inconsistent with my beliefs. I am just presenting the science... which conflicts with their emotional need to say this is all based on random chance.

 

[stu]

Quote from Lucrum:

For the umpteenth time I'm not a creationist per se stuPID, I'm a skeptic. NOT everyone with questions of questionable theories is automatically a bible thumping evangelist moron.

Lol. Not a creationist per se? What, like not being a communist per se would make someone skeptical about capitalism ?
Saying things a creationist would say is not being skeptical. It's agenda driven intentional ignorance .
Come on crummie, stop trying to pull the wool.

 

[stu]

Quote from jem:

betapeg says there are pathways.
the leading nobel prize winners said otherwise in 2009.

"it would be great to have one complete plausible pathway."

"It would be great to have even one complete plausible pathway,"

"but what we find often is"

"we end up with ultimately two or three or more different ways in which a particular step could have happened."


It would be great to have even one pathway but there are often more than one ....means what to you exactly ? That there are none??
Is that how you figure things. With bible logic?