Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

[stu]

Quote from Lucrum:

You're projecting Lord stewie, I have a skin as thick as anyone here and thicker than most.

They're either unproven unobserved or about as plausible as creationism. Some or all may be fact/true. When I'm satisfied they are I'll embrace them with open arms. Until then I'm skeptical.

You want to keep banging your head against the wall until then go right ahead.

You're the one name calling throwing insults and getting their pants in a knot at the slightest thing. Thick skin? Yeah right, don't make me laugh.
It's clear you're as thick skinned and skeptical as a creationist is open minded. In denial is nearer the mark.

You use the same line creationists do. That is not open mindedness by any stretch, but if you want to keep kidding yourself, be my guest.

 

[jem]

Quote from jem:

nobel prize winner says no known plausible pathways for origin of life at this time.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...ak-and-09-10-05


Szostak: Absolutely! I mean what we're interested in is figuring out plausible pathways for the origin of life. It would be great to have even one complete plausible pathway, but what we find often is when we figure out how one little step might have worked, it gives us ideas, and then we end up with ultimately two or three or more different ways in which a particular step could have happened. So that makes us think the overall process might be more robust. So, you know, ultimately it would be nice, I think, if it turned out that there were multiple plausible pathways; then, of course, we might never know what really happened on the early Earth.

betapeg says there are pathways.
the leading nobel prize winners said otherwise in 2009.

"it would be great to have one complete plausible pathway."

 

[jem]

Quote from Betapeg:

What is your alternative to abiogenesis? Magic?

unknown works
pan spermia might work
directed evolution works

they are all educated guesses, just like random evolution
for now.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from stu:

 

[Betapeg]

Carl Sagan on abiogenesis

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[Betapeg]

Quote from jem:

betapeg says there are pathways.
the leading nobel prize winners said otherwise in 2009.

"it would be great to have one complete plausible pathway."

Philosophical musings by someone who happens to have a Nobel Prize is nothing compared to hard experimental data which I posted for you which show some of the steps involved in an abiogenesis process.

 

[Betapeg]

Quote from jem:

unknown works

Not an answer.

pan spermia might work

Which begs the question, how did the extraterrestrial life begin?

directed evolution works

By who, and by what evidence to support such a view?

they are all educated guesses, just like random evolution
for now.

I wish you could tell that to my genetics professor.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from Betapeg:

Philosophical musings by someone who happens to have a Nobel Prize is nothing compared to hard experimental data which I posted for you which show some of the steps involved in an abiogenesis process.

i admire your patience but you cant win with jem. i have debated him for years. he is intelligent enough to understand but he has a deep seated need to believe. that need causes him to only be interested in science in as far as he can find a gap to place his god. any and all knowledge that would falsify his god is willfully ignored.

 

[stu]

Quote from Lucrum:

When talking to creationists like yourself...agreed. I'm surprised you were aware of it , although it is rather sad how you seem to think it's some sort of achievement..

 

[Betapeg]

A serious documentary for serious inquirers....

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The Origin of Life - Abiogenesis with Neil deGrasse

http://www.youtube.com/user/betapeg?feature=mhee#p/c/7CAC5B234ED2BEB0