You worship the Christian god because you are afraid of the image of hell described in the New Testament (which did not exist in the Old Testament by the way). It is in my opinion one of the most manipulative ideologies to have ever been invented. Nobody can falsify heaven or hell, god or the devil, angels or demons. We just have to believe you and your holy book, no questions asked. Shut up and obey, OR ELSE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!! What strikes me is the fact that Christians are no less sinful than anyone else when it comes to divorce, infidelity, sexual perversion, drugs and alcohol, or lying. It really demonstrates that all Christians are human, and as humans, behave like the animals we are. We are horny greedy creatures just as evolution has made us and every other animal into for survival. No belief in an unnatural god (because your god demands us all to deny to our natural instincts) will ever change that.
Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.
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You worship the Christian god because you are afraid of the image of hell described in the New Testament (which did not exist in the Old Testament by the way). It is in my opinion one of the most manipulative ideologies to have ever been invented. Nobody can falsify heaven or hell, god or the devil, angels or demons. We just have to believe you and your holy book, no questions asked. Shut up and obey, OR ELSE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!! What strikes me is the fact that Christians are no less sinful than anyone else when it comes to divorce, infidelity, sexual perversion, drugs and alcohol, or lying. It really demonstrates that all Christians are human, and as humans, behave like the animals we are. We are horny greedy creatures just as evolution has made us and every other animal into for survival. No belief in an unnatural god (because your god demands us all to deny to our natural instincts) will ever change that.
I am an atheist when it comes to pink unicorns because nobody has ever sensed one (sight, touch, smell, taste, hear), detected one (through scientific means), verifiable communicated with one (which goes back to detection), and not to mention the absurdity of such a notion as the existence of pink unicorns. There may be pink unicorns but believing there aren't is a totally rational belief that requires no faith because it is obvious there are no pink unicorns (unless proven otherwise).
You are not in the same position. You believe there are pink unicorns, with zero evidence for it, other than your feelings. You are the person of faith, not the atheist, and to say otherwise is one big fat lie designed to justify your belief in irrational things.
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You've been a believer longer than I have if I remember correctly. You believed for some 50 years. What does that say about your mind.
a thinking mind is capable of escaping the delusion.
You've always been thinking. Previously, you would allow faith into your thinking, but now you limit your thinking to only that which can be experienced through the lowest common denominators of human experience, the five senses (my apologies to those missing any of those, just trust me on this). I have no criticism of that choice on your part, presumably the former approach was not making you happy, but clearly you are much happier now.
lol. so because piel has a "feeling" of fear based on his indoctrination that an invisible man in the sky will torture him unless he worships that deity he is thinking clearly?
No democratic delusion is more fatuous than that which holds that all men are capable of reason, and hence susceptible to conversion by evidence. If religions depended upon evidence for their prolongation, then all of them would collapse. it is not only that the actual evidence they offer is extremely dubious; it is mainly that the great majority of the men they seek to reach are quite incapable of comprehending any evidence, good or bad. They must get at such men through their feelings or resign getting at them altogether.HL Mencken:
science is simply a method of applying reason. is it reasonable to fear torture in a firey pit by an invisible man in the sky when there is no evidence of a firey pit or an invisible man in the sky?
There's also Pascal's Wager, actually.