Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

[stu]

Quote from Trader666:

You STUpidly miss the point yet again. The original conversation was about Russell's teapot which, as he described, is falsifiable despite your claim to the contrary.

The whole point about Russell’s Teapot is / was / still is, that it is unfalsifiable.
It can never been found or proven. Can it ?!!!

Quote from Trader666:

Russell never envisioned SBSS and specifically wrote conditions for telescopes that he thought would make it unfalsifiable

Exactly. He specifically meant his Teapot to be a metaphor for an unfalsifiable concept.

Quote from Trader666:

Which means, what seems unfalsifiable may or may not actually be.

God also, meant as an analogy for something unknowable, may only seem unfalsifiable, but it may or may not actually be so.
Well then, as I said, it works on all levels, Russell’s Teapot and God are indeed equally unfalsifiable

Quote from Trader666:

You can't use this template with God because you'd first have to assume God is mythical which would be circular reasoning. Not to mention that all things that seem to be just as unfalsifiable are NOT necessarily equally plausible. That's STUpid childish "thinking."

You couldn't reason your way out of a paper bag.

Of course God is mythical just as Russell’s Teapot is mythical.
No amount of searching, no telescope, no dialytic refractor , is ever going to find Russell’s Teapot in any way differently than is the same for God.

They are equally plausible (ie they aren't), they are equally unfalsifiable.

What’s astonishing is you destroy your own argument, shoot yourself in both feet at the same time and make my point all in one post.

 

[stu]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Yep! I know you have a caricature in your mind of God being a fragile old man with a white beard and maybe holding a staff or something like that. Not really someone you would be scared of if you met them in a dark alley, right? In fact if God was like that, you might start to try to bully him and demand answers to your questions, maybe even poke him in the chest saying "Why didnt you show yourself to us so we didnt all go around thinking we were a bunch of highly evolved monkeys?"

I will try to explain what would happen if you did see God, but my analogy wont do this example justice.

Imagine you are alone in a desert. Nothing around for 100 miles. You turn around and see a 30 foot tall tyranasaurus rex about 10 feet away from you. It looks at you and you look at it, and you feel terror because you do not know what it will do, and if it comes after you, there is NOTHING you can do. You cant run, you can't hide, you cant explain yourself to it, you cant even get 2 steps for fear you will be struck down. All you can do is stand and stare, completely powerless and accept your fate.

Worshiping something because you're shit scared of it is known as losing your integrity.

 

[stu]

Quote from jem:

you are presented with quotes from top scientists and you call it old and lame.

You repeat quote mine the same stuff over and over.
Each time you're given good reason why your claims for them are unsound. So what do you do....
You repeat quote mine the same stuff over and over.

That's why it's old and lame.

 

[Trader666]

What's it like to be so STUpid that even the simplest concepts are beyond your grasp?

Russell's teapot is absolutely falsifiable because it involves a physical object in a specified, finite amount of space. God is of unknown composition and location. To continue to STUpidly and childishly maintain they're "equally unfalsifiable" even after I've corrected you is hilarious.

P.S. even if you improve Russell's original teapot to something that seems unfalsifiable today (as Russell's construct did to him at the time) you still can't say God and the teapot are "equally unfalsifiable." (see below)

Quote from STUpid:

Russell’s Teapot and God are indeed equally unfalsifiable

This is STUpid on so many levels.

You don't know God is mythical, you just "think" so. Which means you don't even know what you don't know.

What can be said with certainty about God and falsifiability is: if God does exist it can't be proven God doesn't exist and, if God doesn't exist it can't proven God does exist.

You can't ASSume God is mythical and pretend that your imagined equivalence in falsifiability magically equals an equivalence in plausibility. That's incredibly STUpid and truly pathetic.

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Of course God is mythical just as Russell’s Teapot is mythical.

They are equally plausible (ie they aren't), they are equally unfalsifiable.

Projecting doesn't make something so. As I said before, please seek professional help.

Quote from STUpid:

What’s astonishing is you destroy your own argument, shoot yourself in both feet at the same time and make my point all in one post.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Yep! I know you have a caricature in your mind of God being a fragile old man with a white beard and maybe holding a staff or something like that. Not really someone you would be scared of if you met them in a dark alley, right? In fact if God was like that, you might start to try to bully him and demand answers to your questions, maybe even poke him in the chest saying "Why didnt you show yourself to us so we didnt all go around thinking we were a bunch of highly evolved monkeys?"

I will try to explain what would happen if you did see God, but my analogy wont do this example justice.

Imagine you are alone in a desert. Nothing around for 100 miles. You turn around and see a 30 foot tall tyranasaurus rex about 10 feet away from you. It looks at you and you look at it, and you feel terror because you do not know what it will do, and if it comes after you, there is NOTHING you can do. You cant run, you can't hide, you cant explain yourself to it, you cant even get 2 steps for fear you will be struck down. All you can do is stand and stare, completely powerless and accept your fate.

how sad it must be to go through life afraid. that is the very essense of superstition.


Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you.

written by George Carlin:

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from stu:

Worshiping something because you're shit scared of it is known as losing your integrity.

We dont worship him because we are scared. We worship him because he provided a way for us to avoid Hell.

If a Judge sentences you to death, and the judges son comes in and says "Hey, i will accept his punishment for him" how grateful would you be to that guy? Out of respect for what he did for you, wouldnt you try to keep the judges laws after that?

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

We dont worship him because we are scared. We worship him because he provided a way for us to avoid Hell.

wtf. he designed this so called hell as a place to torture you. it is amazing what religion does to the mind of its believers.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Free Thinker:

wtf. he designed this so called hell as a place to torture you.

Technically it's to torture the non believers and unrepentant sinners or so the story goes. Or IOW YOU and me.

it is amazing what religion does to the mind of its believers.

You can include fanaticism in that remark as well, including your own fanaticism.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from Free Thinker:

wtf. he designed this so called hell as a place to torture you. it is amazing what religion does to the mind of its believers.

You've been a believer longer than I have if I remember correctly. You believed for some 50 years. What does that say about your mind.

 

[Eight]

There is so much stuff that doesn't fit the Atheistic world view that it's incredible the amount of faith they must have to persist in it...