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Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.
- Thread starter peilthetraveler
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Quote from Ricter:
May be, but so are you. There is no objective compulsion to choose the scientific worldview over others. Thus, we must rely on our own feelings about which is better.
Come on Ricter, don't be that ridiculous.
Are you really trying to argue there is no objective compulsion to choose what you call the scientific worldview over others when you want to produce medicine, or send a communications satellite into space.
Do you really have to produce those kind of asinine remarks to make a gap for your "meta-level" ?
Quote from jem:
what are you talking about... you have it all backwards...
as of now there is no evidence of random chance...
and there is evidence of design... using math and science.
you have the science backwards...
seriously think about your argument...
1.. what is your proof that random chance caused the initial universe...
I have already explained how Chaos Theory details randomness is at the heart of the universe, from beginning to end, NOT design.
Additionally, to claim intelligent design (ID) is evidenced by mathematics and science, and that those who rightly disagree have their "science backwards", is absolutely ludicrous. They surely are not teaching ID to physics students at Cambridge, Oxford, or Yale. They do not even teach it in public schools. Why? Because it's religion, not science. If you want to discuss a "creator" or "designer", please, by all means, go to a church, and keep it there. You are free to believe whatever you want, just make sure not to claim something as scientific when it really isn't.
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2. what is the proof that our universe appears designed....
Nothing more than abstract theological/philosophical syllogisms which really, when you take a deep hard look at them, explain absolutely nothing.
please read the links I provided... they lay out the science based argument that there is evidence of design based on the fine tunings in the universe.
Sure, post them again.
Quote from stu:
ok so now we have God ... was it random or was it designed?
Strange how naturalistic explanations don't throw up such dead ends. Is that why you don't like them and try not to understand what they mean so much?
Its you who has been pretending there are naturalistic explanations... other than the possibility of a designer...
I have no problem if science does or does not have the ability to confirm a designer...
I would obviously have an issue if science proved there was no God... but that seems unlikely to happen in my lifetime.
However, you have the issue... you pretend science confirms you atheism... but when pressed you refused to provide true answers...
watch this...
Stu provide us evidence that life evolved from non life...
prediction... stu will spew some words and provide no evidence.
Quote from stu:
Come on Ricter, don't be that ridiculous.
Are you really trying to argue there is no objective compulsion to choose what you call the scientific worldview over others when you want to produce medicine, or send a communications satellite into space...
Reread what you just wrote, I'll bold the important part--it's value driven. The "meta" part refers to the subjective choice made before facts are winnowed.
Quote from Betapeg:
I have already explained how Chaos Theory details randomness is at the heart of the universe, from beginning to end, NOT design.
Additionally, to claim intelligent design (ID) is evidenced by mathematics and science, and that those who rightly disagree have their "science backwards", is absolutely ludicrous. They surely are not teaching ID to physics students at Cambridge, Oxford, or Yale. They do not even teach it in public schools. Why? Because it's religion, not science. If you want to discuss a "creator" or "designer", please, by all means, go to a church, and keep it there. You are free to believe whatever you want, just make sure not to claim something as scientific when it really isn't.
Nothing more than abstract theological/philosophical syllogisms which really, when you take a deep hard look at them, explain absolutely nothing.
Sure, post them again.
I do not think you get it...
please explain how chaos theory formed a universe.
you seem to be saying the universe is caused by random chance.... seriously -- do you have any peer reviewed articles which suggest that in the last 20 years...
here are some links to get you started..
here is a starter
http://www.geraldschroeder.com/FineTuning.aspx-- a former mit professor or lecturer
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below is an "infidel" website - which does provide some of the arguments from more than one side.
http://www.infidels.org/library/mod...ins/design.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/mod...hannam/fta.html