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Quote from 377OHMS:

Extreme statements like this drive many towards Romney or Obama.

Yes...the insane who can't think for themselves...
They will get the government they deserve...like they have now...
 
Quote from kut2k2:

I tuned out virtually every sermon I sat through when I was Christian. So holding me responsible for anything the pastor said would have been ridiculous. Reverend Wright wasn't working for Obama or preaching in Obama's name, so your analogy to racist screeds published in Ron Paul's very own newsletter is a failure.My argument wasn't against abortion, it was against the hypocrisy of calling oneself a libertarian and being against abortion. There is no such thing as a "anti-choice libertarian." I used to be a libertarian so I know about these things. Ron Paul is a conservative pretending to be a libertarian, which makes him a liar. Case closed.

Why did you attend the sermons at all if you just tuned them out? Unless you were a child being dragged there by your parents I can't imagine why. Obama attended Reverend Wright's church as an adult, for nearly 20 years. I presume he did so to listen to the sermons, or to discuss things with the Reverend, as otherwise he must really love to waste his time and be bored.

By your reasoning anybody against murder isn't a real libertarian, because that would infringe on a person's ability to choose. After all, some people choose to murder. So unless you favored legalizing murder you were a phony anti-choice libertarian.

Ron Paul's great sin was failing to exercise adequate editorial control over some newsletters with his name on them at a time when he was putting in long hours as a doctor. Well, which is worse, mismanaging a newsletter or mismanaging a country? That's what all the other candidates will give us.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The more I see who really hates Ron Paul the more I like the man.
 
Quote from kut2k2:

In your race-obsessed "brain" ... my criticism of Cain must be based on his race...

That's good to know, maybe you could inform your fellow liberals IQ47 and RCG that criticizing Obama isn't racist.
 
Quote from Optional:

Yes...the insane who can't think for themselves...
They will get the government they deserve...like they have now...
...with Obama.
 
Quote from Optional:

Yes...the insane who can't think for themselves...
They will get the government they deserve...like they have now...

I'm in here tonight talking about hobbies and rationally discussing politics with righties and lefties. You're in here sounding shrill and extreme.
 
Quote from rew:

Why did you attend the sermons at all if you just tuned them out? Unless you were a child being dragged there by your parents I can't imagine why. Obama attended Reverend Wright's church as an adult, for nearly 20 years. I presume he did so to listen to the sermons, or to discuss things with the Reverend, as otherwise he must really love to waste his time and be bored.
Lots of people go to church because it's expected of them, not because they're fervent believers. It's not a crime. Obama denounced Reverend Wright's hostile speeches. The Reverend Wright issue is over, settled back in 2008. All Paul has said is that he didn't know what was being published in his very own personal newsletter, which is ridiculous.
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By your reasoning anybody against murder isn't a real libertarian, because that would infringe on a person's ability to choose. After all, some people choose to murder. So unless you favored legalizing murder you were a phony anti-choice libertarian.
You have no good reasoning on this issue. Murder is a blatant infringement on the rights of the victim. If you're claiming abortion is ipso facto murder, this is clearly a matter of great dispute and the USA has decided in the majority that abortion in the first two trimesters is NOT murder.

Try to keep your apples separated from your oranges.
Quote from rew:

Ron Paul's great sin was failing to exercise adequate editorial control over some newsletters with his name on them at a time when he was putting in long hours as a doctor.
In other words, he couldn't multitask even when he was a younger and more vigorous man. Why would anybody want an older, frailer version of *that* guy in the Oval Office? What, was a gun pointed at his head, forcing him to publish newsletters "at a time when he was putting in long hours as a doctor"? That dog won't hunt.
 
Quote from kut2k2:

Obama denounced Reverend Wright's hostile speeches...
yeah but ONLY because he was called out and it was politically expedient


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Quote from kut2k2:

Lots of people go to church because it's expected of them, not because they're fervent believers. It's not a crime. Obama denounced Reverend Wright's hostile speeches. The Reverend Wright issue is over, settled back in 2008. All Paul has said is that he didn't know what was being published in his very own personal newsletter, which is ridiculous.
You have no good reasoning on this issue. Murder is a blatant infringement on the rights of the victim. If you're claiming abortion is ipso facto murder, this is clearly a matter of great dispute and the USA has decided in the majority that abortion in the first two trimesters is NOT murder.

Try to keep your apples separated from your oranges.
In other words, he couldn't multitask even when he was a younger and more vigorous man. Why would anybody want an older, frailer version of *that* guy in the Oval Office? What, was a gun pointed at his head, forcing him to publish newsletters "at a time when he was putting in long hours as a doctor"? That dog won't hunt.

I'm supposed to believe that lefty, secular Barrack Obama felt social pressure to go to church? From whom, I wonder. Certainly not from his Bible thumping relatives or friends (from what I can tell there were damn few such people in his social circle). And why *that* church?

Paul has disavowed the controversial articles in those newsletters and has repeatedly stated that he disagrees with them. The Ron Paul newsletter issue is over, settled back in 2008. And yes, it's entirely possible that Paul wasn't reading the newsletters when they came out. He wasn't the editor at the time and had plenty of other things to do.

Abortion is a blatant infringement of the rights of the unborn victim. See how easy this is? There is not by any means a consensus in the United States on when human life begins.

You abortion fans don't stop at the second trimester. You insist upon a right to "partial birth" abortions. And now two "ethicists" are arguing in favor of infanticide, which, frankly, is just a natural extension of the "reproductive rights" movement. http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.abstract

From their paper:

"Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life."
 
Quote from Ricter:

Oh, is he not considered a Muslim anymore?

He is a lefty. And no, I never claimed he is a Muslim. So no, your attempt at being cute didn't work.
 
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